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Cardinal Pell dies in Rome - Age 81.
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Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 3:27:04 PM
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Pell was one of the few churchmen who had the courage to warn of 'cancel culture and Woke activists’ and the 'agnostic drift across the Western world' faced by Christians. He knew that the state wants full access to and control over every aspect of our lives. He would have agreed with Ryszard Legutko, member of the European Parliament who lived under Communism in Poland, and said, that the West is "heading in the direction of the Communists of old".
Legutko, makes a case for what we call liberal democracy and communism being closer than we think they are: . Both systems hanker for change all the time. . They say that the world can't be tolerated the way it is. The old must be replaced with the new. . Both systems "intrude on the social fabric. No one can be left alone. . Everything has to be modernised. . There is no respect for the past. The past is to be forgotten, or derided and demonised, making people more malleable and defenceless. Memory is the enemy of authoritarianism. .Traditional family structure is no longer respected. Children negotiating rather than respecting their parents experience and duty to provide guidance. More power ceded to children. . Loss of respect for marriage. . That which communism achieved with force, liberal democracies are achieving by allowing people to "drift along in the flow of modernity", sidelining Christianity with secularism, undermining education with political brainwashing. Keeping us "safe" during the Covid panic by taking away our personal responsibility and freedoms. Most of the population in Australia fell for it. . The invention of a 'climate crisis' supposedly needing quite idiotic changes to our lives, accompanied by massive increases in the cost of living. . Price control (gas and coal caps). . Telling the populace what they should and shouldn't eat. Western values are disappearing - fast. And it's getting harder to find people willing to protect them: certainly among the politicians we stupidly tolerate. We have lost one such protector. Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 3:33:37 PM
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Here is a link that gives a different perspective:
http://theconversation.com/how-george-pell-won-in-the-high-court-on-a-legal-technicality-133156# Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 3:38:51 PM
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He got to live hell of a longer than many of the children he served up to be abused by clergy who had been reported by moved on to abuse again.
The number of blighted lives, many of whom did not make it, that this man is either directly or indirectly involved in is in the hundreds. Hopefully it brings some slice to the many victims of the church. Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 4:25:32 PM
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Now there's a surprise. A "different perspective" from a bunch of lying Leftists. Imagine!
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 5:00:13 PM
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ttbn,
Instead of continuing to slam every single one of my posts - how about you providing some evidence to dispute what you don't like or agree with. That's what intelligent people normally do in discussions instead of just making the drive-by comments that are your forte. Grow up! Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 5:20:35 PM
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" New Revelations - Cardinal: The Rise and Fall of
Cardinal Pell" (Updated edition) by Louise Milligan.
With a Foreword by Tom Keneally.
It sounds like an interesting read. Louise Milligan
we're told is the only Australian journalist "who's
been privy to the most intimate stories of complainants.
She pieces together a series of disturbing pictures
of the Cardinal's knowledge and his actions many of
which are being told in this book for the first time."
We're told that "the book uncovers uncomfortable
truths about a culture of sexual entitlement abuse
and trust and how ambition can silence evil."
Do I really want to read this book?
I'm not sure. I know that I have always believed that
the Cardinal got off on a legal technicality. But I
think I might find all the details involved in this
book just a bit confronting. So I have to give it some
more serious thought on the subject.
Now that the man has died - I shall pray for the repose of
his soul. And my sympathies go out to both his family and
to the victims and their families who have had to live with
the abuse that either he or his silence has caused