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Cardinal Pell dies in Rome - Age 81.

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ttbn,

I read your post. And I am responsible for my own
behaviour. But I can't be held responsible for your
interpretation of my behaviour. In any case no matter
what I say or do - your posting record regarding me
on this forum speaks for itself. And you need to accept
responsibility for that. "awful," doesn't even cover it.

In any case - If you think I'm being "awful."
I must be doing something right!
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 15 January 2023 1:07:11 PM
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I accept that you will always be deluded and remain convinced that you are always right. Fortunately, you are completely harmless to everyone but yourself. And you deserve what you are doing to yourself.

The Catholic Church threw Pell to the secular wolves because he was a conservative. They didn't raise a finger to help him because they didn't want their 'progressive' sects revealed. Keep the faith, speak your mind, and you are in big trouble with the Vatican mafia.

These sects are "overwhelmingly liberal (left-wing)". Pell was their natural enemy. The sects are determined to keep out conservative views and values. They are always looking for excuses to get rid of conservatives.

And wasn't the one cooked up against Pell a beauty!

It is easy to sideline run-of-the-mill conservatives, but Pell was powerful and influential prior to the current Pope, who didn't like him either.

The sects want to change Catholic tradition to suit the current secular ideology, Their faith is not strong enough for them to accept that the Church is 'of God, not the world'; and Pell was having none of that. And the Left-ideologues-rather-than-true-Catholics were having none of Pell.

Not a Catholic myself, I have always respected Catholicism (not the corporate bureaucracy) for what it has done in the wider world as well as for Christianity via priests like George Pell.

This new, watered down version - without the likes of Pell, and with a Lefty Pope - is rubbish.6
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 15 January 2023 1:44:20 PM
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One of THE most awful people who hounded George Pell, Louise Milligan, has neighed, " George Pell is dead. This will be a very triggering day for a lot of people".

So, even Pell's dying is cause for more angst for "lots of people" who he never did a thing to, and indeed initiated the very first enquiry into child abuse by some Catholics against them.

It's not just an anonymous poster who should be contemplating Hell because of their hateful attitudes and 'evidence' against an innocent man - all of which was swept aside unanimously by the High Court.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 15 January 2023 2:08:28 PM
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Foxy,

Considering that the VIC police opened a session for anyone to lodge complaints against Pell, I would guess that every opportunist and conman took a chance for free money.
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 15 January 2023 2:50:10 PM
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Cardinal Pell has been a divisive figure both in
Australia and internationally, but his legacy has
been tarnished by the Royal Commission findings
in 2020. The late Cardinal was a polarising figure
and his death will stir powerful memories for victims
of sexual abuse.

St. Patrick's Cathedral in Ballarat - has its fence
and gates covered in ribbons from sexual abuse victims.
Two state governments are not giving him a state funeral.
The membership of the Catholic Church in Australia has
declined according to the last census. And so it goes.

Stating these facts is not "slander." And before criticising
Louise Milligan - it would be more appropriate to first read
her book.

Providing information as part of a discussion is a normal
process - and does not mean that the provider is trying to be
"right." If you don't agree with the facts being provided it's
better to provide your own evidence to dispute them rather than
name-calling and labelling people while stating that you
accept opinions different to yours. Your behaviour does not
support your claims.

My family asks me - why do you respond to that "ignoramus?"
But they know why. I have been raised to try to be polite.
Except of course when I lose it.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 15 January 2023 2:59:40 PM
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shadowminister,

Possibly. However do you know how many did not report
their abuses during the Cardinal's lifetime? How committed
suicide? Or became drug addicts. Or how many priests he
allowed to continue abusing because he moved them from
parish to parish? The count with Ridsdale was over 130.
And suicides just in Ballarat were over 51.

Hope can you compensate for that?
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 15 January 2023 3:03:41 PM
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