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One voice

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Josephus,

Once again - do your research as to who is considered
an Aborigine. There are 3 criteria that have to be met.
You need the facts in order to continue expressing an
intelligent opinion.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 9 January 2023 4:04:06 PM
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Dear Josephus,

The Aboriginal people of today are not in general full blood. A lot of that is due to exploitation of Aboriginal women by white men. Children of those unions identify with Aboriginal society since they generally are rejected by non-Aboriginal society. The fact they are not full blood is due to the exploitation of Aboriginal women.

It is an unreasonable demand to restrict Aborigines to those of full blood. If their land were not taken from them, if their women were not raped many of them would not be living in cities and would be full-blooded.

The Voice does not represent the culture of the past since that culture does not in general exist. The Voice represents the survivors of the people of the past who exist in the present. The history of the settlers is why the Voice is necessary.

We cannot reverse the settler crimes, but we can acknowledge them. We can be thankful that the Aborigines were not wiped out and try to compensate the survivors of mixed heritage by giving them a Voice.
Posted by david f, Monday, 9 January 2023 4:20:08 PM
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Steelreflux,

According to the document you linked, as nearly every piece of legislation affects indigenous people as well as the rest of us, the voice would require indigenous involvement at every step of the legislation and regulation creation process at both the federal and state levels. This would be far more invasive than Albozo is selling.

This vote now and we will design the legislation later is a blank cheque to a racially based legal system that will override the majority of voters. This is basically apartheid.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 9 January 2023 5:10:35 PM
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A grand total of 9 different people have had their say here.

Let's wait and see what the other 17,302,243 (June '22 figure less us 9) have to say when they are all forced to vote on this rubbish.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 9 January 2023 5:37:21 PM
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Life's too short to deal with other people's insecurities.

Most Australians prefer not to water the weeds in their lives.
They prefer to water the flowers.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 5:09:12 AM
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We must decide if we consider all people regardless of race as equal or believe some are victims of their ancestors' past and lesser human than the average population.

Paul, David and Steel and Foxy, want them to continue to be victims needing exceptional care, they have no aspirations for them to enter Australian society. They prefer they remain as oppressed victims.

Any first Nations person that receives income from our society from work or services do not need special treatment, they have achieved equality by western discipline. Aboriginal persons who earn thousands from playing sport, working in mines and Rural and producing product for sale into the tourism industry, do not need a Voice as there are their equals in the Parliament already.

Who needs a special Voice above the government elected? and for what purpose? Will the taxpayer fund them?
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 7:25:30 AM
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