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The result of the referendum will be decided by voters, not politicians or activists. If sense and democratic values prevail, a majority of those voters in a majority of states will vote NO. If not, there is no hope for this country.

Josephus

You have made your point. There is nothing to be gained by arguing with ideologues and ratbags; unless you enjoy helping them to make fools of themselves - something they do very well on their own.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 8 January 2023 8:39:08 AM
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Josephus - once again - do your research so that
you can talk with facts not misinformation.

I don't despise Ms Jacinta Price. And her being Right-Wing
does not equate with the claim that the Voice is a "left-Wing
propaganda of the Labor Party," as there are many Australians
from various political parties who support the Voice.

As for all of us being equal under the one law?
The Australian Constitution unfortunately had not made
adequate protection for Australia's First People. It has
failed to protect their rights as the First Peoples of this
country. It's about this historical foundation that is so
lacking that Australians are now realizing the need for
constitutional change to address the lack of recognition of
our Indigenous peoples in our nation's birth certificate.

As for there being some Aboriginal senators in parliament?
They represent and are obligated to serve their electorates
only. They have no powers to speak on behalf of Indigenous
people.

As I keep repeating - stop with the bulldust - and mischief-
making and get the facts.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 8 January 2023 9:02:17 AM
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Foxy,
How do you propose to alter basic human instinct ? Do you really believe legislating will bring about harmony ? This VOICE will and, I guarantee that, bring about division & insanely massive waste of much needed funding for far, far more important issues.
If there was even the slightest chance of this VOICE to work in the idealistic sense you peddle then don't you think it'd would have worked all along by itself by now without legislation ?
As ideal as this VOICE sounds in the academic mind, the reality is that racism is as human as your aversion is to personal responsibility & my aversion to wasting billions on society-wrecking idealism !
It's impossible & utterly mindless to legislate against racism when the racists don't want the bandwagon to come to a halt ! Think $$$$
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 8 January 2023 9:12:26 AM
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Hi indyvidual,

Ah, more excuses for no action.

It isn't easy to keep trying to be truthful
when surrounded by lies and even harder not to
succumb to the naysayers cries. It's hard to fight
back when you're made to feel small. And even harder
to not buy into their BS at all.

However, many Australians are now realizing how important
the Voice is and how as a nation we should give the
proper recognition to our Indigenous people that they deserve.
It's way past due. And what they're asking is not that much.

But I agree it is frustrating and exhausting dealing with
assholes.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 8 January 2023 9:42:38 AM
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Foxy,
You introduced this Thread as One Voice but then you refer to it as The Voice. Huge difference in inference.
As I said in earlier posts, academically & idealistically this VOICE sounds ok. In reality however and, judging by the people pushing this agenda (after all it is just an agenda) most logically thinking people will have reservations about its end result !
We already know & experienced many of the pushing characters & the evidence is not promising a workable outcome.
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:41:13 AM
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With this Voice referendum we have to hope that most Australians will vote intellectually and not emotionally like the one or two (one mainly) loudmouths here telling us how good it is.

Given the paucity of information about the thing from the architects of this proposed attack on our Constitution, the Government, it stands to reason that all the "positives" are just wild guesses by emotional, overwrought ideologues desperate to seem 'nice', when we are looking at a very serious change to the Constitution and the way Australia is governed - without good cause: just "good manners" (Ockernese)
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:53:28 AM
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