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Posted by Maverick, Saturday, 14 January 2023 6:24:24 PM
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Dear Foxy
Please respond to my post above. Cheers Mavs Posted by Maverick, Sunday, 15 January 2023 3:19:24 PM
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Hi Maverick,
I'm sure that the Prime Minister will follow the correct procedures when the time comes prior to the Referendum and we shall all be informed of what to do et cetera. In the meantime - of course there will be those who are trying to stir the pot. Ignore them. Things will follow as they should. Our PM has enough people advising him on what needs and must be done. Don't concern yourself. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 15 January 2023 3:46:12 PM
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The noblest cause is the action to stop apartheid from being legalised in Australia.
The old communist objective is that everyone is equal, just that some are more equal than others. Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 15 January 2023 3:54:43 PM
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shadowminister,
Don't make your views so obvious. Try being a bit more subtle. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 15 January 2023 3:58:43 PM
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Thanks Foxy for replying.
However you are evading my main point! That is Albanese following the Referendum Convention requiring his government provide each voter/"elector" with two 2000 WORD ARGUMENTS on the YES and NO CASES concercening the Voice Proposal(s) Regarding this Convention see http://www.aph.gov.au/about_parliament/parliamentary_departments/parliamentary_library/pubs/rp/rp9900/2000rp02 "The YES and NO Cases ...In most referenda since the Referendum (Constitution Alteration) Act 1912 (No. 2), each elector has received a pamphlet containing arguments in favour of, or against, any proposal upon which s(he) is voting. Normally, these arguments must be no more than two thousand words in length, and must be authorised by a majority of those parliamentary members who voted for or against the proposed law." Please respond to my main point. Posted by Maverick, Sunday, 15 January 2023 6:56:11 PM
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Albanese doesn't want to provide Australian voters the two 2,000 word summaries, as required under Referendum conventions, that would provide arguments for the Yes and No cases.
His fear is informed discussion of the YES and NO cases would expose the broad disagreements between Aboriginal Factions.
The major factions are:
1. the Young Urban Radicals, a Melbourne based faction who walked-out of the Uluru convention. They don't want a Referendum at all due to the risk it would be voted down. Instead they want Albanese to go straight to Treaty and a "Truth-Telling" Compensation Commission.
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2. the Uluru Statement pro-Referendum, generally Northern Australia, Traditionalists, who DO want a Referendum. The Young Urban Radicals consider this group a bunch of old fuddie-duddies.
For the CONVENTION REQUIRING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDE 2000 WORD ARGUMENTS ON THE YES AND NO CASES.
See http://www.aph.gov.au/about_parliament/parliamentary_departments/parliamentary_library/pubs/rp/rp9900/2000rp02
"The YES and NO Cases
Parliament prescribes the manner in which referendum votes are taken.
In most referenda since the Referendum (Constitution Alteration) Act 1912 (No. 2), each elector has received a pamphlet containing arguments in favour of, or against, any proposal upon which s(he) is voting.
Normally, these arguments must be no more than two thousand words in length, and must be authorised by a majority of those parliamentary members who voted for or against the proposed law."