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The last days of the Russian Empire

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AC,

Russia doesn't just talk up its figures it often makes up stuff such as the destruction of Bradleys and HIMARS. The figures I quote are from sources that try to independently confirm the numbers. There is no equivalent on the Russian side.

As for air superiority, Russia clearly doesn't have it. Having lost 13 aircraft in a week near Vuhledar as well as plenty of tanks and APVs and more than 1000 men. (confirmed by Satellite.)

The F16s, F15s and F35s would swat the Russian planes from the sky. PS. most of the about 2000 Russian tanks have been destroyed by artillery and ATGMs mostly because NATO ATGMs and artillery is far better and more accurate than the Russians.

The next round of bans/price caps is likely to cut at least $50m /day from Russia's revenues
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 3 February 2023 7:52:24 AM
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Hi AC,

My Gran fled from the Soviet regime.
She would never support tyrants like Putin - ever.
And ti is up to the today's Russian people to join in the war
to get rid of that tyrant. So she would be demonstrating
against Russians being allowed to take part in the Olympics.
She would be leading the parade against them until they got
the message that their behaviour in supporting this tyrant is
unacceptable to free people everywhere.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 3 February 2023 8:05:24 AM
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Found those videos of Ukrainians being detained by force and sent to fight.
They hadn't been removed after all, sometimes twitter is weird the way it displays the order of users posts.
These are just from the last couple of weeks.

When you detain and send people to the front line under these circumstances, then you will need people on the second line of defense to shoot them if / when they try to retreat.

Watch the videos included in the tweets.

"At this point, APU is just kidnapping civilians and sending them to the front."
http://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1617159194532274176

"More forced mobilisation in Krivoy Rog, to the last Ukrainian."
http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1617936165402968065

I don’t know how the Pro-Ukrainian side can just ignore the videos of people getting pulled away to go die in a war. They often make the claim that this is happening in Russia but we only see videos of it in the Ukraine.
http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1620508094081146880

By the way, Bakhmut is now under operational encirclement.
The window to retreat from the city without being under Russian fire has now closed.
They are making progress north east of Soledar, taking the towns of Sakko I Vantsetti and Mykolaivka

Ukrainians wearing Nazi SS patches.
http://twitter.com/lvivtyler/status/1621199816511590401
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 3 February 2023 8:49:55 AM
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AC,

The Ukrainians seem not to have got the message that they are encircled and are still moving men and equipment in and out. I would suggest that you find new sources of information as your present ones are almost always wrong.

The video is of someone being detained or arrested. Which country this is in or what it is for is unexplained and even if it was what you say, this is going on 1000x as much in Russia.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 3 February 2023 11:01:43 AM
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"The Ukrainians seem not to have got the message that they are encircled and are still moving men and equipment in and out."

There's only one road left to Chasiv Yar they can get in an out on but they risk coming under fire.
The others are under fire control or cut off entirely.
It was reported in Tass and Russia's Channel One 2 days ago.

"The situation [in Artyomovsk] is very difficult for Ukrainian servicemen because our soldiers have already moved around the settlement’s flanks. Moreover, I want to remark that they [the Ukrainian forces] have a chance, let’s say, to flee, rather than plan a retreat, because all the roads that lead to the settlement are shelled by our troops. And they are, as they say, closely watched by our reconnaissance units," he said on Channel One.
http://tass.com/politics/1569989

However, Prigozhin (Also 2 days ago) said that Artyomovsk (Ukrainian name - Bakhmut) today is not yet in the operational encirclement of Russian forces.
"Operational encirclement implies all roads and routes of supply, evacuation and any movement are under fire control. At the moment, there is no operational encirclement of Bakhmut. For operational reasons such details are not usually reported publicly. When the city has been taken, you will certainly learn about that," said Prigozhin on the Telegram channel of his press service on Wednesday.
http://tass.com/politics/1570085

"Russia is losing this war."

Weren't you bragging about Ukraine capturing Dibrova and this big attack on Kreminna?

Dibrova was captured 4 days ago and Russians are continuing westward towards Lyman...
http://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1621270874891452418/photo/1
http://satellites.pro/Ukraine_map#49.035673,38.078442,13
http://youtu.be/fKOiopNWDZw?t=31

I guess the western sources maps aren't showing this.
It did take Ukraine 2 weeks before they admitted they lost Soledar I suppose.
Ive seen some good footage of a Terminator opening up on Ukrainian forces in the forest near Kreminna though.
http://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1618624056877797377
You wouldn't want to be standing in front of that.
Here's a bit of heavy flamethrower as an extra bonus.
http://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1619767991306182656

As for the people being dragged away you can't see any uniforms, only what stated, so I'll accept your argument and doubts.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 3 February 2023 11:49:36 PM
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AC

Once again you are posting complete BS. The Russians do not as yet have fire control over all the access points to Bahkmut, they have not captured Dibrova and they are nowhere near heading for Lyman.

I remember you saying that they were going to encircle the Ukrainians at Izyum. Once again you are wrong.
Posted by shadowminister, Saturday, 4 February 2023 8:02:29 AM
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