the Labor government actually puts money into CLEAN energy and GOOD infrastructure.
Max Green,
Well, that's what they say they'll do, have they done so anywhere yet ?

While we're on the topic: Blakers explains that while coal use has been rising this year, it won't for long.

"Why? Largely because rising natural gas prices, due to sanctions on Russia, is driving demand for less expensive coal to fill the gap in energy supply. The report finds Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has “sharply altered the dynamics of coal trade, price levels, and supply and demand patterns in 2022”.

The good news, however, is the world’s coal use has peaked – and will soon rapidly decline. This is because new solar and wind power station capacity is being installed 18 times faster than new coal. In many countries such as Australia, retiring coal power stations are being replaced by solar and wind.

Coal use in Australia’s National Electricity Market (NEM) peaked in 2008. Since then, the proportion of coal in the NEM electricity mix has fallen from 86% to 59%, and this decline is accelerating."

So given Blakers is talking numbers, anyone want to predict when we'll hit rolling blackouts because of the lack of coal? Coal's already under 60%. When does Mad Max hit because we went renewables instead of coal? Come on guys - money where your mouth is! Pick a percent.

And Max, the cost of electricity has rises at about double the rate that coal has been retired.

Of course worlds wide coal used to supply 82% of our electricity. Then along came wind & solar. After 7.2 trillion dollars waster, coal has bean reduced to 81% of power production.

Do try to get real.

Six billion a year Max? Really? Fossil fuels generate hundreds of billions in export income and tens of billions in royalties and taxes. What sort of health service would Australia have without the flow on from that wealth generation and how many lives would be lost as a consequence?

In contrast, the solar swindlers and windmill wise guys generate no export income or royalties, and the taxes they pay are more than offset by billions in taxpayer handouts. In return we get lies about the actual costs and reliability of renewable energy, high priced electricity that will make it tougher for Australian enterprise, and hatchet jobs on nuclear power, the only viable dispatchable low carbon energy source, albeit a little more expensive than coal.

If renewable energy had something positive to bring I would be all for it, but all I see are pernicious handout guzzling parasites. The renewable energy swindle in Europe is unravelling:

http://netzerowatch.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c920274f2a364603849bbb505&id=5277af6ecd&e=48bb978c50

Hi Fester,
Yes - $6 billion a year in health costs on top of the tax concessions to these immensely wealthy corporations – to equate to an overall subsidy of around $18 billion a year.

The Office of the Chief Economist resources report shares forward projections for 2023 fossil fuel earnings.
http://www.industry.gov.au/sites/default/files/minisite/static/ba3c15bd-3747-4346-a328-6b5a43672abf/resources-and-energy-quarterly-september-2022/index.html

METALLURGICAL COAL Page 53 $44 BILLION
“Australia’s metallurgical coal export values are forecast to track with price movements, rebounding from $23 billion in 2020–21 to peak above $66 billion in 2021–22, before falling back to $44 billion in 2023–24.”

THERMAL COAL Page 63: $38 BILLION
“Record prices are expected to see export values reach $62 billion in 2022–23 before a (price-driven) easing to about $38 billion in 2023–24”

GAS Page 76: $90 BILLION

OIL page 90: $13.4 BILLION.

Total forward projections are therefore $185 billion.

As the world heads towards more and more renewable energy, we will have less and less of this fossil fuel income. What do you suggest we do to replace it?

Even if we were to try and make you alt-truth guys happy and build a vast fleet of nuclear reactors, what are we going to sell Japan? Hydrogen? Really? When they have enough renewable power to run even their highly populated little islands 14 times over?

The world is going renewable, whether you people can admit it or not. There ARE extra expenses like HVDC transmission lines and PHES to open up access to the VAST amounts of very cheap power available from solar and wind. The power lines and storage are nation-building projects - like the Snowy hydro scheme and Harbour Bridge. They'll open up new opportunities. But can you imagine what they are?

Let’s use renewable energy to make renewables infrastructure and batteries and green steel and sell that overseas! $333 billion in CLEAN exports by 2050.

http://bze.org.au/repowering-australian-manufacturing

Thanks Max.

All pie in the sky stories of how great renewables will be. Reminds me of snake oil.

Here is an example of the anti-nuke tripe coming from the renewable energy lobby:

http://www.pv-magazine.com/2020/09/24/nuclear-power-is-now-the-most-expensive-form-of-generation-except-for-gas-peaking-plants/

By the comments I am guessing that people are getting a little more skeptical of the renewable guff. The problem that renewable energy has is the transition from non-dispatchable to dispatchable, and the truth that renewable energy companies want to hide, aside from the huge subsidies they are getting from taxpayers, is the fact that the cost of non-dispatchable renewables is similar to the long term cost of nuclear:

http://www.nucnet.org/news/nuclear-is-most-affordable-dispatchable-source-of-low-carbon-electricity-12-3-2020

"Yes - $6 billion a year in health costs on top of the tax concessions to these immensely wealthy corporations – to equate to an overall subsidy of around $18 billion a year."

$6 billion? Nuclear power has prevented a few million deaths, yet all the renewable energy spivs seem to do is make vague references to it being "dangerous". Energy sector companies are wealthy Max because they give Australia an economic advantage with cheap energy. That is why they generate hundreds of billions of dollars in export revenue and pay tens of billions of dollars in royalties and taxes. In contrast, renewable energy companies reap billions in taxpayer handouts and provide expensive and unreliable energy which harms the economy. The only thing renewable energy excels at is in telling bs stories about how wonderful renewable energy is going to be.