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Here it is!

"Second, wind and solar energy alone will not be sufficient to break that dependence."

Well DUH! It's like he's never heard of off-river pumped hydro! Who SAYS wind and solar alone? Blakers certainly doesn't!

Has he heard of PHES?

The Blakers satellite survey that shows Europe has HUNDREDS of times the potential resource it needs to back up its grid economically.

But here's the best bit!

Most of the human race doesn't live in Europe.

Most of the human race lives much closer to the equator.

Most of the human race CAN use renewables because they don't face as harsh winters as Europe and Russia.

And EVEN if it proves Nordhaus is RIGHT about Europe - which I doubt because I've seen too many papers analysing how to do it - it doesn't mean he's correct for the MAJORITY OF THE HUMAN RACE!

In other words, some of us are Eurocentric in our thinking and try to condemn renewables for the majority of the human race when the concerns they raise are mostly European in origin!

That's just totally dishonest!

Hi Max,

As the table I linked shows, wind and solar produce cheap power in Europe too.

The problem renewables face is that dispatchable nuclear costs the same as non-dispatchable wind and solar. Why would European countries bother mucking about with pumped hydro when the modelling suggests that making renewable energy dispatchable would make it five times the cost of nuclear?

Also Max, if Andy B's ideas are so fantastic, why is the rest of the world ignoring him? Maybe they lost interest when he estimated the cost of nuclear power at $300 per mwh when the long term data shows countries producing nuclear energy at a tenth the cost.

“The problem renewables face is that dispatchable nuclear costs the same as non-dispatchable wind and solar.”
Oh look – Fester’s doing the assertion thing again!
You’re going to have to get better at actually quoting the most relevant paragraphs from the most credible sources, and referencing them. I’m kind of bored of your repeated assertions schtick.
“Also Max, if Andy B's ideas are so fantastic, why is the rest of the world ignoring him?”
Another unverified assertion!
“Nuclear power rebounds and increases 2% in 2021, reversing only half of the decline in output that took place in 2020.”
http://www.iea.org/reports/global-energy-review-2021/nuclear#abstract

http://www.iea.org/reports/global-energy-review-2021/electricity#electricity-supply

Together wind and solar caught nuclear’s output in 2021.
http://www.iea.org/reports/global-energy-review-2021/renewables

You can see that in the USA renewables are SMASHING nuclear output.
http://css.umich.edu/publications/factsheets/energy/nuclear-energy-factsheet

“Renewables were already expanding quickly, but the global energy crisis has kicked them into an extraordinary new phase of even faster growth as countries seek to capitalise on their energy security benefits. The world is set to add as much renewable power in the next 5 years as it did in the previous 20 years,”
http://www.iea.org/news/renewable-power-s-growth-is-being-turbocharged-as-countries-seek-to-strengthen-energy-security

Summary: wind and solar have caught nuclear.
Wind and solar are going to grow more in the next 5 years than the previous 20.

Can you say the same thing of nuclear? Do you have a credible source!?

But hey – according to World Nuclear – if it had ANY growth compared to the last 20 years that would at least be something! The last 20 years look fairly flat if you average them out!
http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Steady-growth-in-nuclear-generation-continues

By the time we overturned the ban on nuclear wind and solar and PHES would have already done the job in Australia - because they're cheaper than nuclear and are STILL on a downward learning curve!

Gawd help us. Some 'expert' advice from Prince Andrew, who told an old woman silly enough to turn out for the 'Christmas Day Walk' the Royals do that she should stand on a newspaper to get warm.

So TTBN - nothing intelligent to say today then?

You are totally humourless, like most of your sort; and sadly, you seem to believe that the second hand rubbish that you rabbit on about is "intelligent".