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Base Load Renewables. Now We know they Really are Stupid !

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I could not believe what I heard our Minister for No Energy say.
Then someone added to the hysterical laughter by saying batteries
would be used to supply the overnight power.
Didn't say where they would get the power to recharge such enormous
batteries before 3pm.
There is now absolutely no question that the government is in the
hands of absolutely stupid nincompoops.

Aside from the enormous cost of the batteries calculated to be about
six Trillion dollars. If however they worked on winter times of a
reasonable output of solar cells they would only have about six hours
of maximum output. So the night is about 16 hours of low output.
So 6 x (16/12) trillion dollars worth of batteries needed.
As I have said before it is elementary arithmetic.
Our schools have failed our politicians.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:10:38 PM
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Everything you hear from Blackout Bowen is rubbish.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 10 December 2022 11:09:47 AM
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Are they stupid, or are they milking the scam for their own profit?
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 10 December 2022 1:26:36 PM
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Battery storage costs $150 US per mwh. Given solar capacity is less than 25% and you need about eight times as much capacity for 24/7 supply, and assuming a very low cost of $15 US per mwh solar generation, your average supply cost is $147 US per mwh. Compare this with sub $30 US per mwh cost of nuclear power from Sweden. The best low carbon energy option for Australia would be a fleet of nuclear reactors, but this doesn't fit with the renewable energy lobby nor the irrational hatred of nuclear power held by many adherents to the global warming ideology.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 10 December 2022 1:28:01 PM
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Maybe correct Fester, but you did not take into account the extra
banks of solar cells needed to recharge the battery that was discharged overnight.
You can't use the existing bank because they are busy running the country.
You have to have another solar farm just devoted to recharging the
ones used at night provided it is not an overcast day.
That problem can be overcome if you provide extra generation somewhere else.
That is the advantage of a big country.
It is exponentially proportional to the inverse of the country size.
This would be the situation when you get a wind drought that runs for
a few days in a row.
In any case the windfarm should be busy running the country not
recharging Chris Bowen's flat batteries.
As I inferred it really has not been thought out and it is a case of
THEY REALLY ARE STUPID !
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 10 December 2022 2:59:20 PM
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Fester where did you get $150 per Mwatt/hr ?
I thought the battery in SA cost about $100M plus for 1 Mwat/hr.
That was a while ago now but I have not seen anything that suggests
batteries are now well under a $1 a watt/hr.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 10 December 2022 3:05:50 PM
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