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Pope issues forceful environmental message : Comments

By Mick Sullivan, published 24/12/2009

Pope Benedict XVI has earned a reputation as the 'green pope' because of his calls for stronger environmental protection.

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>>This message from the Pope is worse than nothing, because it sends the message that people across the world can continue to breed in an unmitigated manner.<<

This is exactly what the Church wants - a bigger pool from which to snaffle up more adherents. The Church operates from a position of power and, not surprisingly, wants to stay there. It probably sees population increase as an opportunity to boost its numbers against other religions, such as Islam. So, they're on the population juggernaut too.

KenH,

I'm sure the Church has some influence in boosting global births. If Costello could do it in Oz with a glib one-liner, then the Church can do it too in some parts of the world. But by far its "greatest" quality is its ability to opportunistically spin a story so as to add to its flock.
Posted by RobP, Sunday, 27 December 2009 9:18:43 PM
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As I said, idiots. Not wit between the lot of you.
Posted by KenH, Sunday, 27 December 2009 11:10:54 PM
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KenH, in support of your comment's, just children is all they are. The more you try to talk sense, the more they submit nasty statements with sarcastic false niceties.

As I said mate, children, just pathetic no brain children & the equivalent of religious mental illness.
Posted by Atheistno1, Monday, 28 December 2009 1:19:21 AM
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The green pope now I have heard everything.
This is the pope that encourages all good RC s to go forth and multiply.
I think his protection sentiment is misplaced.
Wonder what the Chinese think about this or the Indians?
And of course population doesn’t have any effect on carbon emission does it.
Apart from the hot air spewing forth from the greenhouse pope.
Hey, that’s a good idea.
Actually just keeps the Popes mouth shut that would stop at least one source of CO2
What a joke?
Posted by thomasfromtacoma, Monday, 28 December 2009 5:21:27 AM
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>>Are you so seriously stupid, ill-informed and detached from reality that you think the Pope has any influence over global population growth?<<

KenH,

Not global growth - at least not any more as the world's population has got too big now (hence my comment re the Church riding the juggernaut). But the Church still has influence on local growth in certain parts of the world, which is a feeder into global growth.

>>Please explain what role or influence the Pope or the Catholic Church have in China, India, Africa, the former Soviet Union, Japan and the Middle East - and even South America, which is hardly a uniformly traditional Catholic culture.<<

The Church's influence is close to zero in these countries as you say. Perhaps the real criticism of the Church on this thread is for its past policies of encouraging or turning a blind eye to population growth when it stood to gain from them.

>>His influence and that of the Catholic Church in these places is negligible. And these places account for the great bulk of the world's population.<<

Yep, but that doesn't absolve the Church for its past contribution to the problem. It would be like saying the Church had nothing to answer for for allowing paedophile priests to operate with impunity within its walls.
Posted by RobP, Monday, 28 December 2009 1:09:50 PM
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Pfft- the Vatican is merely jumping on the Climate Change Movement bandwagon to try to counter its appearance of being grievously archaic (well, in areas its flock would be neutral towards).

However, considering this organisation is AGAINST contraceptives, againts abortions (which means additional unwanted people that may have otherwise not been concieved)- and regularly shuttles around the world in private planes and encourages its flocks to converge on various countries around the world for its "World Youth Day" promo events (most likely by plane) that they would otherwise have no reason to take- its Green message is just useless hot air.

Nothing to see here.

Although it's sad that Catholics will think they're now 'environmentally friendly' when they're actually on the negative side of the environmental friendliness spectrum.
Posted by King Hazza, Monday, 28 December 2009 1:16:46 PM
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