Antiwomen: << there is a very strong sense of disenfranchisement among the men of this country >>

Rubbish - but there does appear to be a noisy minority of male losers who whinge endlessly in online forums about advances in women's relative status. Absolutely none of the blokes I know bleat on about women the way you guys do at the pub, on fishing trips, playing golf or in any other situation where we hang out together.

I think that the aggrieved types we see here all too often are simply projecting their own inadequacies on to women in general, and feminism in particular. There's nothing praiseworthy in that.

CJ,

'I think that all this whining from most of the men in this thread is decidedly unmanly.'

What so whining isn't manly? Men whine just as much as women. The patriarchy assigned these things as un-manly to project the female as bad anyway. Chauvinist pig!

But I agree. You lot are the biggest sad sacks I've ever seen. I give you all permission to enjoy your life, and I think you all need to go home, pull your pants down, and look at your penis and be thankful.

It's all just so childish. 'Look at her she get's special treatment'. As anyone would tell a whining child, 'You just look at yourself. Don't you worry about her.'

You're all a bunch of feminists. Look what you're doing! Really! Wanting special days and pouring over every aspect and every detail where men may be being treated differently to women. Let it go. Rise above it. Leave that kind of action to the feminists

I would agree that we have a society that does sneer at men, and it is quite widespread. Earlier this year the Cancer Council in NSW ran a series of ads concerning cancer in women. The ads featured a male gagged around the mouth, tied by the hands and feet and left in a cupboard. The ads tried to depict men as being cancer, to rid women of cancer, then women would have to get rid of men.

The most important area to put a stop to this systematic and widespread discrimination and denigration of men is the education system. It is a giant bureaucratic system that has a unwritten principle of never saying one positive word about men, boys or about the male gender. If someone in the education system did say a positive word about the male gender, they would instantly come under suspicion of being a woman hater.

Schools have been built by men, but after they have been built, men are not welcome. So men have been used by the feminist education system to build the schools, and then they are dispensed with.

What can you do about it?

Write to your local school, stating the hypocrisy of having celebrating International Women’s Day but not International Men’s Day, and ask them to start celebrating International Men’s Day. You can also volunteer to talk to the boys, and to tell them the truth. Tell them what you have achieved, and why you are proud to be male.

Also consider reporting of a feminist or a discriminatory teacher, not to the school principal, but to the regional inspector of education. Reporting anything to a school principal is normally a waste of time.

Also litigation of a school or university can be considered if it is found to be carrying out bigotry, discrimination, distortion of truth, discrimination and misandry. There are plenty of schools and universities to choose from, and I have found that about the only time a teacher pays any attention to anything is when it could affect their hip pocket.

Antiseptic, (and to some extent assorted others) - I seriously doubt that you've ever met a feminist, of any type, much less read anything about feminism.

Re: Dr. Celi. I have no idea why you think feminists would be opposed to men achieving better health; working to stop any form of violence - whether it's male or female perpetrated; or exploring masculinity.

Robert Jensen wrote (2002):

Andrea Dworkin, a radical feminist writer and activist who has spent her life working against sexual violence, is often portrayed as the most man-hating of feminists. But listen to what she said to, and about, men when she addressed a men's conference and asked them to work for 24 hours without rape. In her book LETTERS FROM A WAR ZONE, she writes:

"I don't believe rape is inevitable or natural. If I did, I would have no reason to be here. If I did, my political practice would be different than it is. Have you ever wondered why we are not just in armed combat against you? It's not because there's a shortage of kitchen knives in this country. It is because we believe in your humanity, against all the evidence."

http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~rjensen/freelance/resistingmasculinity.htm

Is this the ad that's troublesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgV9Oa6z5wY&feature=related

Here's a parody of it anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2UJ4bZxIMM

I am not sure what I think of those; but if men are offended, I'd like to understand it. If they are a problem then they should go, of course.

We've discussed shows like Raymond and so on before and I posted the names of the writers (predominantly male) producers (mainly male) and those who profit from such shows (overwhelmingly male); not to mention the cast and crew. I don't watch those sorts of shows because I believe that they reinforce traditional cop outs: "I dunno how to vaccum; I dunno how to iron... that's woman's work... where're my socks?". If men are troubled with portrayals of ineptitude well many feminists would agree. Again, men need to look at who is exploitative; the culture of it and who profits from it. It isn't feminists that's for certain.

CJMorgan <"I think that the aggrieved types we see here all too often are simply projecting their own inadequacies on to women in general, and feminism in particular. There's nothing praiseworthy in that."

Well said CJ. I think that statement pretty much sums it all up really. I know there are plenty of men out there that don't feel this terrible animosity against females and/or feminists.
These men give me the reason to fight against men that have chips on their shoulders re women.

I don't have to dislike men to be pro-women.

On a lighter note in which to end my humble contributions to this thread, I wish to repeat this little gem from Houellebecq.
It really made me giggle!

"You lot are the biggest sad sacks I've ever seen. I give you all permission to enjoy your life, and I think you all need to go home, pull your pants down, and look at your penis and be thankful."

Since this article appeared on OLO approximately 36 males in Australia have committed suicide. In comparison, approximately 6 females have committed suicide in Australia.

Of course men don't commit suicide due to feminism. But they do commit suicide when they cannot see a future, when they cannot see they have a place in the world, when they are collectively blamed for the sins of a few men.

When they are not valued.