Peter Hume,
Schools and universities are well aware of International Men’s Day. None celebrate it to my knowledge, and I also see an increasing disinterest in boy’s education.

With the teachers I have personally spoken to , not a single one of them has ever said anything positive about boys. I have heard everything from boys are lazy, to boys are trouble makers to boys are immature, but not one single positive word has ever been said by any teacher regards boys that I have personally heard. That is the attitude of so many teachers.

Allowing men into the schools to talk to the boys on International Men’s day can help to put the record straight. It is mostly men who are the lovers, workers, innovators, discoverers, inventors and designers. That is fact, (and it has been this way since the dawn of time), and allowing men into the schools to talk to the boys can help to motivate the boys.

Boys marks have been declining for over 20 years, and the teachers are not motivating the boys. With the amount of feminism in the schools, there is no hope at all that the boys will be motivated by teachers in the future.

The teachers are not being paid according to performance, and many if not the majority couldn’t care less if boy’s marks fall even further. If boy’s marks fall even further, the teachers are still paid the same.

So it will be up to outside organisations and people outside the education system to motivate the boy students

Houellebecq
"Well, I don't know about you, but I have an 'interest' in looking after my children, and also an interest in my partner looking after OUR children when I'm not there because I have to earn some money."

Then there's no need for either to use force or threats, is there, and the issue of coercion does not arise.

"Pretty disgusting argument all round. Obviously women don't want sex in your mind, and men hate children. Men should be able to rape women because we have to pay for children? Don't think you've thought this through very well."

I don't think you've thought it through very well. Your mind-reading is an invalid form of argument. I'm not saying men should be able to use coercion against women to get what they want from them. Are you saying women should be able to use coercion against men to get what they want from them? Because that's what's in issue, and nothing you have said has given any reason to justify it.

What a load of rubbish all this anti-women ranting is! If this is all Mr. Marsh can inspire in the males he so admires, then he has failed miserably to prove the worth of the male of the species on these pages anyway.

For goodness sake Vanna, do you not think that all these poor boys, that are so hard done by at all the schools you speak of, have mothers?

Do you not think that those mothers would move heaven and earth to ensure their sons get as good an education as possible? Mothers love their sons as much as their daughters. Wouldn't their fathers do the same?

No amount of 'feminists' at the schools would stop the boy's parents from speaking out if they felt the boys were hard done by.
The school where my children went certainly had a strong boy-friendly policy.

There seems to be plenty of boys going to tertiary institutions and universities, so the schools must be doing something right.

There are many male only schools too- where would the feminist influence come from in those schools Vanna?

The education department and all the parents associations around the country acknowledge that boys are learning at the same level as they always have, but that the girls are starting to catch up at last.

That doesn't mean the boys are worse off, it merely means that girls are doing better now.

Maybe boys do need more male influence in their lives, so male teacher numbers should be encouraged. Maybe the males in these boys lives need to step up and try to be more encouraging.
Most real men don't blame women for all the ills of the world.

Maybe sometimes we all need a reminder that things are not always as they seem to be. The 9am David & Kim interview with Dr Elizabeth Celi was an eye-opener and well worth watching:

http://9am.ten.com.au/video.htm?vxSiteId=4a40990c-a06c-401b-8663-6f890bb8f3dc&vxChannel=9am%20General%20Health&vxClipId=1427_9am793-lg6-180609&vxBitrate=300&CMP=LEC-DANCEgetVideoLink

vanna, you're absolutely correct. Outcomes for boys are much poorer than for girls. Boys can be rambunctious and female teachers find that difficult to deal with, so boys are often shunned in the class, or drugged with amphetamines for the teacher's convenience.

suzeonline:"Most real men don't blame women for all the ills of the world."

Real women don't try to be men. Real men quite like real women. Real women quite like real men. Pomeranians quite like humping legs and sniffing crotches looking for a pat, but that's another story. I'll leave you to judge who the real women are on this forum.

Cornflower, excellent link and a really impressive speaker. It was very encouraging to hear a real professional with such a genuine working grasp of the issues saying the same things that we here have been saying for a long time.

That was the first I'd heard of the recommendation for a review of legislation in relation to inherent misandry. It sounds like a good idea, but difficult, so I hope it doesn't get set aside for too long.

Let's hope that this is just one of many media projects addressing this issue. There is a huge group of men in this country who are feeling very much second-class citizens and as I've said many times, there will be a backlash that will not be pretty if that resentment is not well managed.

This country needs women to work, there's no question about it with an aging population. There is no reson why that process has to be a divisive one and on the whole, it hasn't been.

what has caused division is the one-sided nature of legislation, such as the anti-discrimination act, domestic violence laws, family law, child support law, as well as the one-sided propaganda, much of it vilifying men, that has accompanied it and been spun off from it, such as the "pinky" campaign she referenced. I could also mention the way in which it is implemented by the bureaucracies set up to do so, mostly staffed disproportionately by women.

Suzanonline,

Your argument that boys have mothers has no weight at all. Many mothers and far too many fathers have little knowledge of what occurs in schools.

Your belief that girls marks have improved is incorrect, but a widely believed myth.

National benchmark tests undertaken over 20 years show that girls marks have stayed constant for over 20 yrs, while boys marks have fallen, although girls marks could now be falling also. The latest results for QLD primary schools show science marks are below international average, and English reading for grade 2 students is now below the accepted minimum Australian standard.

More girls are going to university, mainly because of the lowering of entrance scores with very few girls undertaking a trade, and also what feminists don’t tell you is that 40% of female university graduates do not earn enough money to ever pay off their HECS fees in their lifetime. 40% of female graduates do not work enough years to ever pay of the cost of their education.

As far as economics go, it is imperative to ensure boys get a good education, because they work longer and pay much more tax. In effect, they keep the system operating.

As I have mentioned in previous posts, the attitude towards boy student by so many teachers is an attitude of negativity, prejudice, feminism, denigration and bigotry, and it is easy to see why so many teachers welcome in feminists into schools on International Women’s Day, but will not celebrate International Men’s Day.