Antiseptic-<she never noticed the remarkably salty taste in her drink>

That makes me wonder again about something that came to my mind last night about her being seen leaving the ships pizza place with Wilhelm by a security guard; extremely intoxicated and staggering .
I once read about a case of a man raping women by putting this in their food. It occurred to me that pizza would be the perfect food to sprinkle this over because pizza can be quite salty or spicy.
The men may have been getting desperate because Mrs Brimble was still not responding stupidly enough to be manipulated into going somewhere she didn’t want to.

<the guys out of their limited supply (it’s not cheap ) gave her 3days worth of their own supply>

The files I was reading on this say that Wilhelm and at least one of the others ran a club in Sydney where they supplied drugs quite liberally to people, so obviously they had access to a pretty constant supply of this stuff. The club was eventually shut down by the police. Also one of the other men had a criminal history with one trial being for rape, of which he was acquitted.

It made me wonder if whilst they were running this club, having this stuff on the premises they haven’t done this to some woman before and she hasn’t pressed charges because she can’t remember the event or just doesn’t want to go through a trial or media circus where her name is besmirched like Mrs Brimble.

pynchme:"a vested interest in promoting exploitative behaviours, "

Oh yes, do enlighten us, mon't you dear? What's the "vested interest"? BTW, I'm not an accountant, wash your mouth out.

I couldn't be bothered looking at your links, did the doctor happen to mention what the actual concentration of the GHB in her system was?

pynchme:"Why shouldn't she agree to have alcohol, even drugs or sex with someone ? "

No reason at all, it's her decision to make and the consequences are her own problem. Why should I get teary-eyed when that decision turned out badly? I know you like the idea that women have total autonomy and no responsibility at all, but most normal people are capable of both assessing risk and taking steps to reduce it if it's too high. She failed at that.

pynchme:"GHB produces effects within 15 mins"

Nope, the somatic effects are remarkably variable in both their nature and their timeframe. Some of that is dose-dependent, but there's also a large idiosyncratic component related to the metabolism of the stuff, which is why the good doctor's estimate was so imprecise. All he could really say was "she'd had it, her mode of death is typical of intoxication with it, she'd had to have had at least [this amount] to get that way and it's unlikely she could have had more than [this amount]".

As a "professional" (LMAO) I'd have thought you'd have been able to work that out for yourself...

sharkfin:"pizza"

Well, I don't know about you, but I reckon I'd notice if someone poured liquid all over my pizza...

sharkfin:"The files I was reading"

I've not seen that information, how about a link?

Antiseptic-the files that I read are the ones you couldn't be bothered reading that Pynchme posted previously.

<I'd reckon I'd notice if someone poured liquid all over my pizza>

Not if you went to the Pizza salad bar or the toilet. Pizza restuarants do have salad bars with dessert and drinks because I have dined at them on quite a few occasions.

'Partying, drinking and drugging is something you ( and your mini-u Houellebecq) do isn't it. In fact you both skite about doing these things regularly - being in the know and all. Why is her life of less worth for doing it when you do it yourself. Hypocrites.'

Nobody is giving her life less value. As I said earlier, if I overdosed I wouldn't be blaming my dealer, I'd blame myself for my own stupidity. That I have been around this scene means I have a better idea of what can go on than your usual 'my daughter would never take drugs' appeal you hear by your average mother on the news. Every parent always says that, and I laugh every time. It's called self delusion.

I maintain, if she were a guy in exactly the same situation, people would assume the responsibility lies with him taking the drug.

What the guys did was careless, callous, whatever you like, but they're not murderers unless they spiked her drink, which I don't happen to believe.

You think everything's about woman-hatred, but have you seen guys after messy bucks nights taking pictures and laughing about guys who are very worse for wear. When you've seen people in these states so many times, you get blaze and expect they'll come right. They generally do. And there isn't ever much concern for the random guy who nobody really knows who joins the party in the hope of some free drugs.

People who are drug-f8cked do stupid things, and people look out for themselves and their own health when on drugs, and it's only the really good friend you can rely on and most times not even that as they're in their own state. That's the culture of it. Everyone knows and expects that the risks and responsibilities are their own to deal with.

Houellebecq-<if I overdosed I wouldn’t be blaming my dealer . I’d blame my own stupidity>

And if you were raped during the time you were overdosing or unconscious then you would be happy to let the men that did it go free because you were putting yourself at risk. They bear no responsibility at all and should be found innocent by a jury.

Don’t forget this took place in a very short space of time. Mrs. Brimble was seen with Wilhelm leaving the Pizzeria at 4.15am extremely intoxicated and staggering by the security guard. The medical forensic examiner said she died somewhere between 4.30am and 5.00a.m.
At 5.30am when Wilhelm opened the door a witness saw naked bodies all over the room. Some of these men denied having sex with Mrs. Brimble at all. Why were there so many naked men in the room at that time then?

At 4.15am Mrs Brimble was in NO STATE TO CONSENT rationally to anything. At somewhere between 4.30am and 5.00am she was already dead. At 5.30am the room was full of naked men.

I say again she probably died during the sex and these idiots were raping a dead body.
The time frames prove that.

'The time frames prove that.'

Do they indeed. Proof huh? That's just your story. If it's all so simple, why did the jury not convict. They had much more evidence than you.

Oh that's right, it's all a big conspiracy. Why don't we just do away with trials and juries and just ask you instead.