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Fatherhood and the love revolution : Comments

By Warwick Marsh, published 4/9/2009

Call it a renewal of fatherhood, family revival or a love revolution, but whatever you call it, it is happening.

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And anyway no matter how you excuse it the final tallies of substantiated abuse makes biological mothers the highest perpetrators and highest risk for bashing the crap out of innocent kids. Whether single, married, primary carer, secondary carer, employed, unemployed, mentally ill, whatever, mothers commit the most violence.

Any denial of this truth by people of your ilk is made at these children's expense. Because you and others deny women's violence the children are likely to be disbelieved and dismissed when they legitimately claim to be bashed by thier mothers. Back to the 1950's where we hide it all under mother's neatly vaccuumed carpet.
Posted by PaulG, Sunday, 13 September 2009 3:18:17 PM
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For goodness sakes this discussion is getting more and more ridiculous!
On the one hand we have the men yelling '..hey all those dreadful mothers are bashing the s##t out of their kiddies all the time and no-one else can see this but us...'
On the other, we have the women saying '...can't you guys see that it is the horrible men bashing everyone in sight and there are no good men in the world...'

At the end of the day, the courts have to take each case on it's own merit and decide what is best for the kids in family breakdowns.
They can only decide this after reviewing statements from all concerned, and using police, GP and hospital records if violence is part of the problem from either parent or both.

What else can they do in cases of conflict like this? Someone has to make the decisions when there is no wish between warring parents to do what is best for their children.

Yes, people of both gender lie to courts, but I am sure the courts are well aware of this.
If the majority of children are cared for by their mothers, then the courts probably have good reason for this.
Posted by suzeonline, Sunday, 13 September 2009 3:51:23 PM
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Mothers violence against children is becoming recognised as feminism's 'dirty little secret'.
Posted by Jason Thompson, Sunday, 13 September 2009 3:54:44 PM
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Breaking News today (shortened):

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news

MUMS LEAD ABUSE SHAME
By Laurie Nowell

Sunday Herald Sun (Melbourne)
13 September 2009, Page 35

Child abuse is rising dramatically in Australia, according to the first in-depth study to be released on the issue in a decade.

Data shows cases of abuse against children rose more than 50 per cent
between 2006 and 2008.

In the 37 per cent of cases in which a parent was the perpetrator, mothers were responsible for 73 per cent of abuse cases while fathers were the cause of 27 per cent.

The data, the first of its kind to emerge since 1996 and obtained under Freedom of Information (FoI) laws, was compiled by the Western Australia Department of Child Protection.

The figures present a disturbing snapshot of soaring child abuse and its perpetrators. Experts say the data can accurately be applied across Australia.

Applications under FoI for similar data from all other states were refused.

The statistics come as the Federal Government has signalled it may roll back the "shared parenting" amendments to the Family Law Act, brought in under the Howard government to give fathers greater access to their children in custody battles.

Mothers carry out more than 65 per cent of cases of emotional and psychological abuse and about 53 per cent of physical abuse. They are also responsible for about 93 per cent of cases of neglect.

There were 1,505 cases of abuse of children in WA in 2007-08 - 427 of them were carried out by mothers and 155 by fathers.

A comparison with 2005-06 data shows the number of total cases of abuse had risen more than 50 per cent from 960. In 2005-06, mothers carried out 312 acts of abuse and fathers 165.

University of Western Sydney lecturer Micheal Woods said the findings "undermined the myth that fathers were the major risk factor for their children's wellbeing".

"While there are some abusive fathers, there are in fact a larger proportion of violent and abusive mothers," Mr Woods said.

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Posted by Jason Thompson, Sunday, 13 September 2009 6:17:56 PM
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CJ Morgan wrote on Friday 11 September 2009 @ 10:22:25 AM -- "I generally welcome new commenters here, but I'd be more inclined to treat this obvious cheer squad's contributions with respect if at least one of them was honest. 'Fess up now, newbies - you were directed here by someone, in order to support Warwick Marsh's article, weren't you?"

CJ,

Of course they were 'directed here' by someone. It was Warwick Marsh himself! In his latest 'Dads4Kids' newsletter, he wrote: "PS. I have over 100 comments on my Online Opinion article, 'Fatherhood & the Love Revolution', many of them quite defamatory. If you would like to set the record straight in any way, go ahead and be my guest."

It is no DOUBT he has been recruiting people to 'stack' the replies section. Typical fundamentalist Christians.
Posted by rodcub, Sunday, 13 September 2009 6:44:21 PM
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Jason Thompson, if all these so-called 'facts' are true about all these abusive mothers out there (I'm assuming based on neglectful,violent behaviours, not sexual abuse?),you must be very proud of yourself having brought all this to our attention?

One must wonder though why all these mothers are acting this way towards their children?
What were the ethnic and socioeconomic circumstances of these families?
Were the women beaten/neglected by their parents?
Are they in turn being abused by their partners?
Are they left to fend for themselves and their children after being deserted by their partners for another woman, or the joys of the single life?
Were mental health issues or substance abuse evident in the mothers?
Why weren't the fathers around to help protect the children?
Why weren't the children removed from their violent mothers by the authorities?

When all these questions are answered and reported on by reputable groups such as the Health Department statistics, or the Australian Medical Association, then we will have the true picture.
Militant men's group websites or facebook sites are not reliable.
Posted by suzeonline, Sunday, 13 September 2009 7:54:11 PM
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