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Fatherhood and the love revolution : Comments

By Warwick Marsh, published 4/9/2009

Call it a renewal of fatherhood, family revival or a love revolution, but whatever you call it, it is happening.

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Well done Warwick!

We need more people like you to stand up for family values and oppose the gradualism which wrongly purports that we would all be much better off by throwing all our values out the window and adopting an "anything goes" approach.

It is great to see a new movement of young people trying to make a difference and stand up for a higher set of standards and reject the failing hedonistic values thrust upon us by the media as normal.
Posted by Wally32, Saturday, 5 September 2009 10:20:23 AM
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What a moving testament to a father's love by Warick Marsh, timely also in the current climate of father denigration by populist media. As a single full-time father of two beautiful children I am astonished at the refusal to extend goodwill to dads who are routinely portrayed as thugs, abusers, bufoons, irresponsible and discardable. One thing is for sure these negative views are not those of the children, most of whom love thier fathers dearly. Perhaps this Father's Day we adults can become like the children and join the love revolution.
Posted by Jason Thompson, Saturday, 5 September 2009 10:21:51 AM
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For those who want the ONLY PUBLISHED AUSTRALIAN FACTS on child abuse by biological parents, here it is:

http://www.mensrights.com.au/dads_not_the_demons.pdf

Read these official figures, accept them, and move on to the truth that hundreds of thousands of dads are loving, responsible carers of children
Posted by Jason Thompson, Saturday, 5 September 2009 10:34:20 AM
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I don't think anyone is saying that there are not hundreds of thousands of loving dads out there. There always has been.

Mothers and fathers are important to children but more importantly the calibre of the parents.

Incarceration of prisoners is more to do with demographics and economic disparity than just stating many come from fatherless homes. Perhaps in some cases if the fathers had been at home they might be dead or still incarcerated. You cannot make a comment until you know the calibre of the absent fathers (or mother if the situation reversed).

The best condition for children is two loving people to care for them in a stable environment but if one of the parents is a dog, then the better parent on their own is always the better option.

Why are same sex couples considered as lacking in values. Where does this nonsense come from?

The recent changes to Family Law does indeed make a big difference for fathers who wish to be more involved, as they should be, in their children's lives.

There has always been a cultural stereotype that the mother is the best person to raise the children, but it is pleasing to see men gain more equality in this respect. The real problem is deadbeat mothers and fathers. What do we do to give support to those children?
Posted by pelican, Saturday, 5 September 2009 10:50:26 AM
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RossM

Adolescent sibling incest has always prevailed, however, the difference between young siblings playing “rudies” and the act of sexual penetration is a serious matter and parents should be educating their children on sexually inappropriate behaviour.

“DeptChildProtection of WA data shows that 75% of abuse circumstances where a child is abused by a parent the mother is the perpetrator.”

Your claim masks the overall reality. In July, the Australian Institute of Criminology reported that as much as 90 percent of child sex abuse is the result of incest with the perpetrators often being the victim's adolescent brother.

However, “estimating the extent of the abuse was difficult as there had been comparatively little focus on the issue of adolescent sibling incest. Estimates of the proportion of intrafamilial abuse which occurs between people from the same generation range from 40 to 90 percent."

In addition, Mr Marsh’s red herrings on incarcerations, has sacrificed reality for the sake of political correctness.

Indigenous adults are now 13 times more likely than non-Indigenous adults to be sent to gaol, and they’re much more likely to reoffend. In the Northern Territory, the Government plans to build a new 1,000 bed gaol to accommodate an ever-increasing prison population.

“Per head of population, the Northern Territory gaols more people than any other jurisdiction. Three times more than WA, which has the next highest rate of imprisonment, and seven times more than Victoria. And of the Territory’s gaol population, more than 80 percent are Aboriginal.

“The worst performer — Western Australia — jails black males at more than eight times the rate of South Africa during apartheid.

“In 2003, the teenage (15–19 years) birth rate among Indigenous women was more than four times the overall Australian teenage birth rate."

It is widely recognized that a very high proportion of incarcerated indigenous women have a history of untreated sexual abuse and victimization and the black male is not taking personal responsibility for his abusive behaviour.

The endeavours of black and white leaders have failed and Mr Marsh’s cherry picking and glaring omissions on societal groupings have not been helpful.
Posted by Protagoras, Saturday, 5 September 2009 12:33:13 PM
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I had similar feelings of wanting to end it all myself many years ago. I had spent almost 3 years and driven myself almost to the point of bankruptcy fighting through the courts trying to rescue my daughter from her abusive and neglecting mother while the likes of families sa the police and the family court stood by and did nothing. No one cared about what my daughter was going through and one day i found myself actually pulling over into the path of an oncoming semi trailer such was my despair at a system that puts such little value on a childs welfare and a fathers love. It was bloody scary to say the least and it was only the realisation that my daughter would have absolutely no one to bat for her if i died that stopped me. So glad i did pull back from the brink. Eventually i did win my battle, and managed to take my daughter from a feral child in a class for slow children after years with her mother, to now doing an honours degree at university.
Facts are facts, up to 75% of kids getting into trouble with the law ARE from single parent families. 85%-90% of single parent households ARE headed by single mothers. Fathers have always been the traditional disciplinarians in the family.
SUZEONLINE i would have thought the reasons that there was no outbreak of lawlessness after the world wars would be obvious. It was a far different world then. Since the 1960s the radical feminists have poisoned our society with their social engineering agendas and in doing so have destroyed many of the traditional values which held a family together. The result is what you see around you today.
Posted by eyeinthesky, Saturday, 5 September 2009 1:01:41 PM
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