There were two trials done in England & The US that showed Paternal Fathers saved their Bloodlined children then the Mother. A Step Father rescued the Mother then his Unbloodlined step children this an example of mans animal instinct.
Animals Lions(example) take a new pride after defeating the old male systematically disposed of the offspring of the old male so as to have only his blood line preserved.
Half of the population was never under utilized the women were the carers of the male children & the childrens safety zone but not enough priority was given to the stay at home mums & wives & society commenced a systematic destruction of the family unit by tempting women from the home.
If we are to fix the child abuse of this country then we must start by accepting the major importance of the SAHM's & give them the security to protect the males offspring.
Lets start by getting rid of the gender war & recognize the animal behavioural instinct of the human being.
Women should be encouraged to be the wife that they vowed to be & men need to be encouraged to be the husband that they vowed to be.
Men on average do love their own children as this gives them their "immortality" by continuing their blood line.
As I say read John Bowlby Attachment & Loss it might explain the human being to many that are seeking answers before we keep going seeking the answers that have already been given but this will defy the feminist movement with this the "same as men" mentality & also get rid of this mens attitude that they are the "all powerful must at all costs have women bow to them" & give both sides a chance to actually see what roles women & men have in the Raising of our CHILDREN who are the Paramount concern but not the absolute concern.
This will undoubtably raise a lot of friction from both sides but that is just the way it is
Thanks for your time have a great marriage from Dave

dwg. Very good point you make in your post on 19-9-09 regarding the correlation between boys being brought up by single mothers, the abuse and neglect they are subjected to by their mothers,the fact that many have had their fathers removed from their lives with the attendant problems of not having a father figure to teach them to respect women, and the part this plays in the ongoing cycle of DV and abuse. Of course you won't get any posters of the other gender to agree with you though, they are NEVER wrong.
TPP. I have replied to your latest rant on the thread where it belongs. a pity you can't even get your threads right.

EyE:”TPP. I have replied to your latest rant on the thread where it belongs. a pity you can't even get your threads right.”

Don’t let it worry you Eye. I’m going to take OLO Course101: “Thread crossing and untangling the Twisted Web we Weave”

I am hoping by the end to have a pillow slip I have made myself.

I’m with you Dave, you made some excellent points. Few things I hadn’t considered before about our gender roles.