I am on a lot on forum sites with various names. I have been watching this site for a while, and haven’t found anything to contribute too. I could just sit back and let the feminists’ try to take over like they always do. But no I am having my say. You feminists’ are always welcome, but you stand out like a sore thumb.

The Pied Piper why are you here? All you have to do is bash the comments that people have. Just remember that you do not know were or who we could or could not be. The same as we don’t know who you are.With the stolen Gen, well it is the truth. You just need to go back into your hole and do more reading, not just on one side, but both sides of the coin.

We can sit back and read posts and not comment, but then if we do comment, we are newbie’s? No not newbie’s just waiting and watching to see the dribble that comes from the kind of sofa lofa’s like yourself.

I am sorry that I have strayed of the subject.

Max:”I am on a lot on forum sites with various names. I have been watching this site for a while, and haven’t found anything to contribute too. I could just sit back and let the feminists’ try to take over like they always do. But no I am having my say. You feminists’ are always welcome, but you stand out like a sore thumb.”

[giggle]

Max:”The Pied Piper why are you here? All you have to do is bash the comments that people have.”

[gasp]

Max:”Just remember that you do not know were or who we could or could not be.”

[snort]

Max”The same as we don’t know who you are.With the stolen Gen, well it is the truth.”

[snigger]

Max:You just need to go back into your hole and do more reading, not just on one side, but both sides of the coin.”

[sigh]

Max:”We can sit back and read posts and not comment, but then if we do comment, we are newbie’s? No not newbie’s just waiting and watching to see the dribble that comes from the kind of sofa lofa’s like yourself.”

[yawn]

Finished? You want me to pick these toys up and put them back in the pram with you now?

Piper,

'Why on earth are they here?'

They come from a planet that is lacking in pompous social commentary, where slogans like 'education is the key', 'don't blame the victim' and 'Howard/capitalism/economic rationalism is the root of all evil' are all but extinct. There's is a planet free of people who think they know the solutions to all the worlds ills, where the failure of the great socialist experiment was heeded, and they look instead for answers that don't involve daydreaming about 'if people would just be nicer.'

They come with recommendations that earth was too hasty in rejecting the prophet Howard's picket fence utopia, where women were free to bring up the children, men were free to watch sport without interruptions, and priests were free to part the hair of alter boys. Good boy... good boy.

So they encourage now a revolution of 'Family Values'.

what about myself PP, I've been a mbr on here for quite some time, participated in polls etc. Why am I here supporting what Warwick had to say, because my father taught me that we work to live, we dont live to work, and part of living is your children and their welfare. I have been accused of some things in my time, but I am no misogynist, even ex in laws will vouch for that.

As for where Warwick stands on homosexuality, I don't particullarly give a rats a*s*, I think as far as Mens Health Ambasador, he was the best person for the job, and his replacement(nepetism?), the Hon ministers 'partner/hairdresser' was a no show at his first public engagement as MHA, something I doubt very much Warwick would do. My children have benefited from myself being involved post seperation in every aspect of their lives. All I have posted here as far as supporting evidence is government backed data, not one single lie.

for an alternative FB pov
http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?gid=89986919298
and I suggest a listen to this
http://www.dadsontheair.net/shows/domestic_violence_statistics_debunked.mp3

after starting school, my mum spent no more than 3 hours a day more with us kids. She has six children, so time spent with the kids is no excuse IMHO for harming them. There are some huge problems in society today, a large part of that must be accredited to fatherlessness

houellebecq, some of your comments are just mind numbing. perhaps you should learn about 'cause and effect' You dont just repair a damaged engine, you have to find what caused the damage, otherwise its just going to keep on happening. You dont just keep flicking the circuit breaker on in your household fuse box, you find out what is overloading the circuit. so, houellebecq whats causing all of societies problems?

Protagoras, i am well aware of the "suffragette" movement of Victorian times, dear. The modern femanazism movement, started in New York, after the second world war, is a different beast entirely. Communist, menopausal, females, who fled Hitler, started "NOW" the national organisation of women. With the cold war raging and senator McCarthy, to deal with, they, propagandised, a new way, to destroy the "capitalist pigs", by renaming, them, "male chauvinist pigs" and destroying the American family. This also gave the lesbians, an opportunity, to, turn more straight women and girls towards, "the sistahood" with fake statistics, or scary, "fairy" stories about all men being liars, bastards, etc. Don't tell me the stats are not rigged, its been common knowledge for years now, prominent, former feminists have admitted to doing it, international, best selling books have been written on it, senior academics have done their history PHDs on it. Neither myself, the article author, nor any of the others, have said anything that is antiwomen. It is you, and the other "child abuse deniers", who have been sprouting your hatred of all males, as usual.

Andrew M Potts, calm down, dear boy, i never said anything, negative about gay men, merely, that one, of the reasons, many men, have been becoming gay over the last 40 years or so is the obvious, brain washing, (from birth), that the femanazis have inflicted, on everybody, about their, negative opinion, of manhood, and everything it stands for. Men, like women, come in all shapes and sizes, and are attractive, as they are, to somebody, out there. However femanazism has deliberately made men and women, less attractive to each other generally. Just because some men, have a higher voice or enjoy gossiping more than the average boofy bloke, does not automatically make them gay. There is no gay gene, it is, a lifestyle choice, according to, many of my gay friends. The only other possible, medical explanation is another byproduct of femanazism, where a pregnant woman's body has too much estrogen or not enough testosterone, in the system and feminises a developing male foetus.

SJF."Could you speak up mate i can't hear you". Thats ok dear it's a problem that afflicts many feminists, its called " selective hearing", you are not alone. Your statement that the feminists have lobbied for decades to get more money and support for single mothers says it all. You would rather spend millions of dollars on supporting single mothers who don't care about their kids than [heaven forbid] actually placing a child with a father who actually does care. As iv'e stated before its all about the rights of the mother and NOTHING about what is best for the child. Don't believe me, ask my daughter she knows ALL about it. Yes i want and need a woman to love me [ you say that like it's poison in your mouth], and i have found one, one who is my equal in every way and who actually DESERVES to be treated with respect, unlike people like yourself, who i will always treat with the contempt they deserve. Spewing mysogynist venom, nothing like the misandrist views that you vomit up, where even kids like my daughter are viewed as collateral damage to be sacrificed on the altar of feminism.