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‘Why didn’t she just leave?’ and other good phrases to get men out of trouble : Comments

By Caroline Spencer, published 18/8/2009

Help wanted! Greg Inglis and the Melbourne Storm have asked me to raise a team of propagandists to see them through this 'difficult' time.

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A very simplistic article.

women = poor, helpless creatures, unable to take responsibility for their destiny

men = brutes, barely able to control their violent urges.

Grade D

Comment: Illogical and incoherent. Are you a graduate of wymens studies by chance?
Posted by dane, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 12:16:47 PM
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Hi All and particularly JL Deland,

Thank you for your comment.

However, my point in my comment was to point out that assault or bullying in any form is illegal, especially in the so-called workplace.
There are steps that victims can be take protect them, i.e charges with assault, etc.
Unless the first step is taken then we will expect a continuance of such behaviour.
It should be made quite clear such behaviour is not acceptable or condoned by society,
Where it involves workplace or schools then the management; even government departments can also be charged for failure of Duty of Care.
I agree that it is not the place for the media to pre-judge what happened. There may be more to the cause of the action, so leave that to the courts and appropriate action.
I do not condone violence in any form, whether against females or males.
Violence only proves you are stronger than the other party. It does not prove you are right or have the right to violence.
I regret to see how much sporting clubs contribute to save their "assets".
Adulation is not a reason to protect the perpetrator. Misbehaviour is not the role model I would want to be set for my children. Sadly we see such behaviour coming from parents at even young people's sporting venues.
I believe the sport and the clubs should keep out of it.
I grew up in an orphanage where violence was practiced as a right by many of those in authority against children who were most vulnerable as there was no-one to protect them, hence my dislike of bullying in any form.
regards
professori_au
Posted by professor-au, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 1:10:00 PM
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I suspect professori_au that we would agree completely on the subject of bullying. It's a complex issue though, and knowing what is the right first step to take is not easy.

Like domestic violence, a bullying situation can creep up on you and it's only when you have stood back a bit, that you think the situation was really out of hand and nobody should have to put up with the stuff the bully wheeled out. Sadly then there is no chance to replay the situation.

If you could rewind time, many of us I suspect, with the value of hindsight, would attempt to kick rear end hard imediately as they encounter it, instead of using the concilatory approach that we tried. Bet lots of us fall into the same trap. We automatically expect the bully to realise that their behaviour is wrong on their own and be mortified at themselves for doing such things.

Bullies of course have a different agenda. They enjoy the power of making someone else's life hell. They enjoy the school boy or girl thrill of dragging other nasty gits in on it, and of being a clever pack leader. They also I suspect have a limited capacity for accepting personal responsibility. Occasionally you will see them sniffling on TV if a more high profile ones get caught, but they never seem to spontaneously have an attack of the guilts.

I'll stand by what I said about lack of response from organisations. Of course it's wrong, but for many organisations the easier option of keeping the bully in place and getting rid of the smaller fish will be taken. In the end it damages them internally as they lose staff, face possible damages and also possible exposure as a organisation who tolerates out of line behaviour.
Posted by JL Deland, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 2:46:30 PM
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Most of these women get exactly what they deserve. They are attractive attention seeking women, who wear their footballer on their arm like a trophy, every bit as much as the footballer wears them.

Against this exciting, macho, rich footballer, Mr nice guy down the road, who will treat them like a lady, always protecting them, has about as much chance as a hyena.

The fact that it might cost the occasional black eye is small cheese.

It's only with age that they find there may be a better kind of bloke out there, but even then, these blokes are usually just too boring to get a look in.

Stop feeling sorry for these ladies. They live a much more exciting life than you, or I, & have to pay the price of admission from time to time.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 8:18:07 PM
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when it comes out that that the action of Inglis was to stop self harm will everyone who has mouthed off apologise for their hysterical comments. remember it was the public hysteria over the "Dingo took my baby" case that sent an innocent women to jail and destroyed a family. when will we ever learn?
Posted by slasher, Thursday, 20 August 2009 9:21:27 AM
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Suzeonline and Pynchme obviously did not read the article.

Quote from Pynchme: "Suzie: I agree. I didn't see anywhere in the article that referred to all men"

Article: "The Four Corners strategy also gives succour to all the men bashing their wives in teleland: they can all imagine themselves to be rugged, adventurous “risk takers”, just like Inglis. It’s a win-win strategy for ALL MEN, rich or poor.
Posted by Atman, Thursday, 20 August 2009 6:53:33 PM
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