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‘Why didn’t she just leave?’ and other good phrases to get men out of trouble : Comments

By Caroline Spencer, published 18/8/2009

Help wanted! Greg Inglis and the Melbourne Storm have asked me to raise a team of propagandists to see them through this 'difficult' time.

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Not being much of a sports fan, I haven't followed this very closely, but I will say that from my understanding of it, Inglis' actions were utterly reprehensible, and I'd be hard pressed to think of anyone of my acquaintance who would say otherwise.

I can also observe that the troglodyte behaviour of some sportsmen, particularly NRL players, has been subject to a right shellacking in the popular media (what the Footy Show says, I neither know nor care), and a wave of disgust in the Op-Ed pages.

So for Caroline Norma to use these unreconstructed neanderthals as a club to bash every Australian with a Y chromosome seems a pretty long reach.
Posted by Clownfish, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 2:57:12 PM
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Caroline if you are a psychologist, social worker or sociologist, you have just breach the code of ethics for any of these organisations.
Posted by JamesH, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 4:54:43 PM
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What a rant.

Is it just me or are the PHD student articles always the worst? Not an original thought in it.

I can rant like that and I don't need a PHD! I covered it all in my own thread anyway, and in much better style...

I was even more balanced.
Posted by Houellebecq, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 5:58:48 PM
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Gee guys,
I really don't think the author was having a go at all men.
I would hope that OLO is not the exclusive domain of male, anti-women contributors? I hope it is a more balanced forum?
For goodness sakes get over yourselves and show a bit of backbone by denouncing violence against anyone- male or female.
Posted by suzeonline, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 9:46:34 PM
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Suzie: I agree. I didn't see anywhere in the article that referred to all men; it addresses men who abuse and others who don't see a problem with abusive behaviour.

As to all the finger wagging that talking about DV makes the problem worse - wtf? exactly HOW does that make the problem worse? Worse for whom? The only people I see benefiting from silence about DV are abusers who can no longer hurt people while everyone pretends it isn't happening.

I think it was put quite cleverly - referring to all the ways that we see violence towards women minimized and hushed. For example, I recently saw an article headed, "Greg Inglis is doing it tough." (Cue: violins). Others refer to how his career is on the line and how much is at stake footy-industry and career wise. Tch tch poor Greg Inglis.

If you aren't a man who abuses women and you disagree with violence against women then you wouldn't find this article threatening or insulting.

If people say that some women are fools for staying with these sorts of fellows, I don't take it personally (sometimes I agree). If someone points out that women can be cruel and do awful things, I don't regard them as talking about me or about all women because I don't identify personally with anyone who behaves like that.

As for all the expressed remorse etc that we're reading about recently... well, it's a matter of wait and see. An abuser expressing terrible remorse is not the least unusual; it placates the victim - the couple reconcile and the tension begins to build again until there's a repeat incident
Posted by Pynchme, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 10:34:36 PM
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JamesH: How does writing an article like this breach a code of ethics in those professions?

Can you point to the bits that have been breached?
Posted by Pynchme, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 10:37:42 PM
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