<But teenagers receive very limited information on sexual ethics, including matters such as how to negotiate consent, how to be aware and considerate of other people's needs in sexual exchanges, and how intimacy functions in relation to sex.

Similarly, while teenagers receive some information on how to negotiate the sex that they do not want to have (the old ''Just say no'' line), they receive virtually no guidance on how to communicate about and negotiate the sex that they do want to have.>

I think this is perhaps a clue to decreasing the incidence of sexual assault, however who gets to decide what the sexual ethics are?

Once a upon a time it was the church and as a previous poster wrote, this not particularly useful.

Theories are interesting, however the human condition is extremely resistant to being pushed in directions that it does not want to go.

'I can tell you that not having any sex education in school certainly did not hold me back! Congratulations Susie, I am sure your current boyfriend/husband would be proud of your boasts.

The "conservative" approach to child sex education has just had a pretty good test run in the US due to the Bush policies: what runner would approve of basically.
The results are very clear cut: More teenage pregnancies, many more STDs, much more ignorance and stress. This is hard data and illustrates why the ignorant extremist/religious approach does not work. We in Australia have at leat 2 cultures: the traditional pragmatic one that has dominated our recent history and the more recent radical "conservatives" that the Howard era brought on.
Like all anti-truth education the church and the radical "conservatives" are forcing upon us, it is detrimental to all and *demonstrably* false.
Shadow Minister has it right: however "Less than ethical" is an understatement! How many childern's lives need to be destroyed by the church before their apologists ask for real ethical behaviour from their religious leaders?
BTW. I recieved an early secular sex education, as did my peers. *None* of my school classmates were pregnant before 18, and it was all pretty low stress. The evidence is clear, the radical "conservatives" are the problem, not teenagers and sex.

runner as long as suzeonline's current partner is not a vile self righteous twat it's unlikely to be an issue. If choices made as a teenager by her are a problem to him then there are much bigger problems around.

Your posting history is far more shameful than any consentual sexual activities someone might have engaged in as a teenager and that does not seem to stop you.

R0bert

Robert

'Your posting history is far more shameful than any consentual sexual activities someone might have engaged in as a teenager '

Well at least its good to see Rob that you do believe in absolutes. They might be your own version but its funny how moral relativism disappears when someone gets on their high horse.

RObert,you are a true Gentleman!

Runner, I never said I had any sexual experiences as a teenager at all! I said the Catholic schools did not teach me a thing about sex education, but luckily, unlike many other seriously damaged Catholic educated individuals, I managed to get on fine with my life.

The nuns taught us that we must never look at ourselves naked in the mirror, never wash our private parts without a flannel, only need to have sex in marriage if we want children, and that most men are sexual devients unless they are Priests or married. Gems of wisdom indeed!

By the way, my Husband loves me for who I am, not for any past experiences I may or may not have had.