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By Alice Aslan, published 8/1/2009The use of essentialist statements about Islam and Muslims block dialogue and debate.
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Posted by david f, Saturday, 10 January 2009 3:56:25 PM
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Polycarp:
"But my concerns are quite rational I assure you." A characteristic of the delusional, I'm sad to say. Polycarp: "I was a lone pro Israel voice with a sign saying "Hamas are genocidal terrorists" among many Palestinian supporters last sunday." Trust you to take sides and then to get it all wrong. Polycarp: "I do wish to change the political/cultural landscape." Delusions of grandeur, you silly old bugger! Poly, are you sure you're going to be able to get through 2009? It's only January and I'm already feeling sorry for you Posted by Spikey, Saturday, 10 January 2009 7:33:11 PM
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I'm sick of hearing about Islam.Born out of human fear/ignorance like most religions,it is designed to enslave people.Don't define anything,just ignore this stupidity.There are better things to do with our lives.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 10 January 2009 7:33:13 PM
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Hi there Spikey
thanx for your concerns about this 'silly old bugger' :) Who knows.. if people on the street manifest the same hatred and evil that HAMAS is.... I might not make it afterall. But I have insurance :) and assurance both temperal and eternal. You say I got it "wrong"..... hmm r u prepared to debate that claim seriously? MY CLAIM "Hamas are genocidal terrorists" HISTORIES CLAIM- The "HAMAS charter", repeatedly referenced in the Media lately... as you well know.. states "Israel will exist until Islam Obliterates it".. now..either you are in sad denial or plain dull. Of all the people in this world.. no one knows better what those types of words mean for Jews. There are ample images of death camps and ovens on line for your illumination and persuasion. I'm wondering Spikey whether your reaction is just the usual "Raw and immediate emotion" typical of the blinkered Islamist or bigoted Palestinian, or are you simply uninformed? SOME HISTORY. 1948 JEWS accept a partition plan. Arabs (stirred up by Grand Mufti Husseini, in the pay of Hitler(until Hitler died)) reacted with violence and war. Arabs were defeated. (stiff bickies..they picked the fight) Thus, the (Palestinian) Arabs showed early on that they were not interested in any kind of 2 state solution and wanted Israel not to exist. Hence...they forfeited their right by any measure of reason to territory in Palestine. What was given to them thereafter was pure 'grace'...(underserved) Then...shock horror... after being defeated, they whined about "Israel not complying with the UN partition" (which they had rejected) http://www.mideastweb.org/zionism.htm http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/palestine/ch2.pdf The West has EVERY right to give land to Jews, as 'we' Crusaders slaughtered around 300,000 of them in the 12th century. Most Jews have NEVER abandoned their ties to the Holy Land from the time of Abraham to now. Take it..or debate it...the choice is yours. Posted by Polycarp, Sunday, 11 January 2009 7:40:51 AM
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Why all this debate about Hamas? They appear to have been listed as a terrorist organization for agea, and still are. So why would anyone in Aus think they are worthy of support?
http://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/agd/www/nationalsecurity.nsf/AllDocs/95FB057CA3DECF30CA256FAB001F7FBD?OpenDocument Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 11 January 2009 8:24:33 AM
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Of course, if there was any substance at all to Porkycrap's "rational" Islamophobia, he wouldn't still be with us, able to write:
<< I was a lone pro Israel voice with a sign saying "Hamas are genocidal terrorists" among many Palestinian supporters last sunday >> If these Muslims are so inherently dangerous and violent towards unbelievers and political opponents, one would expect that at least some of them would have expressed that violent predisposition towards the silly old bugger. On the other hand, if they're not the evil terrorists he wants us to think they are, they probably recognised him for the obvious frootloop that he is and left him alone out of human compassion and pity. Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 11 January 2009 8:44:26 AM
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I grow weary of your use of the term 'Christianity' .. in connections such as these. "Christianity" is the name of the faith..referring to the teaching/beliefs of the faith, not an adjective for the behavior of those claiming to be adherents.
Dear Polycarp,
I grow weary of your protestations, your lack of knowledge of grammar and your idiosyncratic definition of the word, Christianity. ‘Christianity’ is a noun, not an adjective. My computer dictionary defines the noun, Christianity, as:
“The religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices.”
I grow weary of your attempts to redefine Christianity by eliminating the second part of the definition. That won’t do at all. I see no reason why I should use your definition in preference to that of the dictionary.
There is one simple way to settle the matter. One can merely recognize that Jesus was not a Christian but a Jew, get rid of the system of nonsense called Christianity and return to the faith of Jesus. It will be difficult for Judaism to deal the multitudes returning but there are many branches of Judaism for them to choose from, and I am sure they will do their best to handle the expansion.
Might as well return to the original nonsense and get rid of the additional nonsense. Judaism has enough nonsense without adding the additional nonsense of Christianity. The sadistic God who asked Abraham to murder his son is more than enough. We do not need the psychopath of the New Testament who condemned his own son to a hideous death.