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Angry, frustrated and powerless : Comments

By Nina Funnell, published 9/12/2008

Vicarious trauma: the trauma incited by an assault is rarely confined to the victim alone.

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Ahh and here this is why so many people advise me not to bother; that providing you with information is a waste of time. You just circle straight back to your original lie. I looked through all of that material and didn't see that transposition error. What I saw was a statement that a proportion of interviewees (both boys and girls) thought it was acceptable to hit boys; and another portion that thought that under certain circumstances it was ok to hit girls.
Also there was the statement that boys thought girls hitting them was funny.

Women don't have to be painted in a favourable light. There are certainly some problematic and vicious women amongst us; but in general females do exist in a more favourable light. We don't murder as much as white men; bash others; sexually molest or rape as much by a long way. That said, I believe there are many more decent men than thugs, though by the way so many of you here condone, excuse and incite violent behaviour, I sometimes wonder.

Also your claims that feminists/ women/ child support responsibilities cause men to suicide. That's simply untrue. Suicide rates for both sexes have been fluctuating downwards for a century.

That there are men still killing themselves is unacceptable. Marriage is a protective factor for both sexes; which should point us towards mutual respect and care, not an adversarial stance.
Men who suicide include those who have been incarcerated; many on drugs, some who have committed homicide and suicide together; and people - often men - who have mental illness. A very large proportion of men with mental illness or chronic substance abuse issues have been the victim of some trauma; very often sexual assault. Overwhelmingly by another, trusted male.

So don't give me your hate woman/ blame woman rubbish. Start doing something constructive like working to stop violence and sexual assault of ALL people and children.
Posted by Pynchme, Saturday, 24 January 2009 5:12:54 PM
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I'll ask again in case you somehow overlooked the following questions:

How are men (and some women) going to do to negotiate consent? How will people who want sex going to be able to show afterwards, should a charge of SA be made, what they did to assure themselves that the person they were with really wanted to have sex ?

Roscop:

<"Whilst you’re at it take a look at the manageress of the NSWRCC, Karen Willis. You couldn’t find a more feminine woman than that, could you? From my observations these types of women’s services seem to attract this type of woman.".

What are you saying there? What sort of woman do you mean?
Posted by Pynchme, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 2:21:50 AM
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Pynchme, I am referring to the manageress’s femininity. Go to the NSWRCC annual report and have a look. Can you see anything feminine about this “know-all” woman? I can’t even see a hint of femininity. What do you see?

I guess next you’ll ask me what’s that got to do with her role as manageress of the NSWRCC, to which I’d say go figure for yourself.
Posted by Roscop, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 8:54:24 AM
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Well Roscop even if she were not feminine (how can you
tell that? Do you know her? What do you mean by
"feminine" ?)

What has it got to do with anything?
Posted by Pynchme, Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:53:40 PM
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pynchme:"Also your claims that feminists/ women/ child support responsibilities cause men to suicide. That's simply untrue."

A lot of men seem to disagree with you, but what would they know, eh?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/compose-message-article.asp?article=8258

A quote from the article:"Wendy Sturgess, chief executive for Crisis Support Services, said Mensline Australia, a phone line for fathers suffering after family break-ups, had seen a spike in calls from anguished fathers.

Ms Sturgess said: "We've had many, many calls … in the past two days from right around the country from men saying to us, 'I know what it's like to be driven to that point. I know what it's like to be so much in pain that that's the only way I can think, to end my life or to end my children's lives.' Some men are ringing, saying … 'I realise how close I've been to doing that myself."'"

I'll have that apology now, thanks...
Posted by Antiseptic, Sunday, 1 February 2009 8:52:40 AM
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Pynchme, you asked me how can I tell that Karen Willis is not feminine. Judge for yourself. Just take a look at her appearance and mannerisms in this video clip: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/triplej/tv/hack_sexualAssault.mp4

Ronan Sharkey(4:28): “Sometimes women aren’t even sure if an incident was sexual assault”

Karen Willis:”Quite a lot of young women will ring us and say something along the lines…oh I’ve been going out with my boyfriend for a month…I know you always have to provide oral sex at the end of a date but last night he made me go all the way…is that sexual assault?”

What we can also tell from this video clip is that the NSWRCC gets a lot of dumbass young women callers who have been swallowing their boyfriends’ cum for a month without developing any sexual urges of their own. Their boyfriends made them let them put it in where nature intended it to go. They then have to ring up Aunt Karen Willis’s mob to find out if that is sexual assault.
Posted by Roscop, Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:42:39 AM
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