Another massacre in the name of Islam in Mumbai.

We will need to find someone else to blame on this one .... maybe those virgins waiting in heaven, if there is not that many virgins ..... really Allah must be running out of virgins by now..... maybe Mother Teresa ..... Santa Claus did not give enough gifts to Muslims.

Time to wake up and look inward to see why evil resides in a religion and culture, time to stop blaming the press or other people for these crimes.

A bad day for your essay to appear Keysar.

A religious mindset that perpetuates the social customs of the Middle Ages (be it Islamic, Christian or Jewish) is going to feel alienated, separated and driven to express itself.

OLO appears to be blighted with reactionary Christians, who quote an old book as truth, but they are not violent.

How a mindset expresses itself is the point.

When young bloods directed by older "Holy Men" get together Mumbai can be the result.

Today the maintenance of Australia's Terrorism Laws, as they are, seems amply justified.

Naturally Christian Neocons and Zionists in the Middle East are part of the cause, part of the retaliation and hence part of the problem.

But it is not assumed that Jewish, Christian or Hindu extremists will bomb Australia.

The Start of a cycle of violence and retaliation it the thing to avoid.

Pete
http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com/2008/11/suspected-terrorists-pictured-in-mumbai.html

Subject: A German's View on Islam

How many German people were true Nazis. The answer guides our
attitude toward fanaticism. "Very few people were true Nazis, but many enjoyed the return of German pride, . Many people thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, and we had
lost control, and the end of the world had come.
We are told by "experts" that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. This is entirely irrelevant just meant to somehow diminish the spectra of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment.
It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one
of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who
are gradually taking over Africa in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor- kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all
our posers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated
of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemies if they don't
speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one
day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Too many peace-loving people have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

Emanuel Tanay, M.D

And it was the fanatics in the USA and Australia, led by Cheney and Bush who invaded Iraq and who are trying to invade Afghanistan,

David

Timing is never right for the cold light of reason. The fault is with those who rather than confront the causes for such obscenity as has been occurring in India since time immemorial.
Where there is deprivation/victimization sooner than later violent response from the oppressed will follow (fact not ideology).

Now back to the article, well written, reasonable and factual, well done. As a secularist I am inclined to contact your organization to offer support.

I think it’s sad that Aussie Muslims as a group need to defend their beliefs because of fear of victimization from fellow Aussies because of the actions of a minority (perverters of the spirit of Islam).

Do Aussie Christians as a group become fearful of victimization from fellow Aussies because of a bunch of ‘Christian’ fundamentalist abuse the spirit of the scriptures by using them to run amok? (e.g. The Branch Davidians, Waco. BTW more Ausies were killed there than in Mumbai)
Or do the Jews feel unsafe from Christian when a settler acts as the decider of which ‘random’ will die based on some misinterpretation of the Tora? No!

So why the special victimization of Muslims? Because they are different not like us? We’re afraid of differences? The truth is we share more in common with them (including fear of zealotic, cowardly xenophobes) than those emotionally dominated, reason deficit Aussie individuals.

Like Keyser admirably demonstrated and as Bruce Springsteen aptly put it when asked about his Hollywood neighbours “there are angel and arseholes on every street, everywhere”.

Aussies, it’s time we all woke up and gave the Muslims the same fair go we demand for our selves and are so proud of. There is NO EXCUSE.

"Too many peace-loving people have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late."

Dr Tanay, Truer words have seldom been spoken.

There are those who wait for the fanatics to take power...and then whine and wring their hands about it.....

and there are those who recognize the ideas which make the fanatics so dangerous...and speak out against them.. BEFORE they ever take power.

THE CHRISTIAN VIEW OF MUSLIMS.

-Muslims, like atheists, Buddhists, Hindu's, Jews,etc are sinners.

-Muslims (like every person on earth) are in need of divine grace, forgiveness and renewal.

-Muslims are people.. created equal to all others.

-The words "for God so loved the world" include all...Muslims as well.

-Muslims are no different to Hindu's, Buddhists, Jews or atheists in God's eyes.
"All have sinned" and the free gift of God is forgivness in Christ through repentance and faith.

The only thing separating a Christian from the other groups mentioned above.. is that they/we have availed ourselves of that free gift of forgiveness. We are not sinless, but forgiven.

THE ISLAMIC TEACHING ABOUT CHRISTIANS.

Well..don't let me tell you... read it for yourself in this section of the Quran:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html

scroll to verse 29 and read it in any or all of 3 translations....then form your own opinion.

Then there is this:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/019.qmt.html

Scroll to verse 88 and read to v 92

again...form your own opinion.

What is the worst sin a human can commit according to Islam?

Read it yourself.

THE UTLIMATE CRIME....?
http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shirk/crime.htm

At least you might gain a glipmse as to 'why' such things as Mumbai, 7/11, 9/11, Bali, Sydney,Melbourne happen or almost happen. "Ideas"