How about us white Westerners getting truthful for a change and finally admitting to the Moslems, that right back to the Romans and even the Greeks, that we haven't been very kind people at all, even among ourselves.

Please to remember that Hitler's Nazis were of the same complexion and nature pretty well as most of us, so surely it's about time we offered to meet say the Iranians on an even keel, even apologising for having thoughts like the Nazis had with the Jews, doing away with the whole bunch of them -

Certainly one wonders whether the Israelies would be much kinder towards a beaten Iran than the Nazis were to them?

Runner Writes:
"Bushbasher weites
'actuz, the danger isn't islam, the danger is fundamentalism.'

Too right. Ask the 80000 unborn babies that are murdered each year and if they could you would hear that fundamentalist secularism is the most dangerous of the lot."
I wonder if we could ask the more than 300,000 unborn babies that abort spontaneously every year, would we hear that God can be a right bastard?
As much as I believe in tolerance, I must admit I find Islam just as primitive a superstition as Christianity.
I am particularly provoked by those good Christians who firmly believe all they are obliged to do is "accept Jesus as their Saviour".
No need for any of the other stuff, like "love thy enemy", or "Judge not lest ye yourself be judged", or "do unto Others..." or "before you attempt to remove the splinter from your brother's eye, first remove the plank from your own"...
If (some) Muslims are not entirely truthful about their religion, they aren't Robinson Crusoe, are they?

Grim, the Sermon on the Mount, of which you obviously give praise to, appears to have become by many modern Christians as containing too much Bleeding Heart rubbish.

Yet it is so interesting that many philosophers praise it because it apparently was intended to make persons analyse, the - Blessed Are - obviously more thought-provoking than a Thou Shalt, which can bring fearful respect to one's mind rather than loving consideration.

Or in other words, Reason, which incidently was only first brought into Christianity by St Thomas Aquinas after an audience with Muslim scholars.

It was also such an audience which gave Aquinas the unusual title for the time - of Christian Philosopher - the title also helping him form the beginning of our modern universities, which however, had problems for quite a time with Scholasticism, meaning that only students who knew Latin were allowed to participate.

It has also been said by philosophers, that the story of the young Jesus before the so-called Crucifixion, really does not need Christianity to still make it possibly the most wonderful story ever told, and the possibility that the boy Jesus learnt much from Hellenistic philosophers of the Great Library of Alexandria while in Egypt with his mother.

Regards, BB, WA.

Grim writes

'If (some) Muslims are not entirely truthful about their religion, they aren't Robinson Crusoe, are they?'

Yea sort of like the abortionist who argued with bleeding hearts that the issue was about the mothers health or the one in a thousand unwanted pregnancies caused by rape. Once they fooled everyone into this lie they changed their agenda to a woman's right to choose. Totally deceitful but really does show how easily people deceive themselves and others.

Australian Constitution:

116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

Is treatment by the ATO (or any organ of government or the bureaucracy) of one religion more or LESS generously than another therefore an offence?