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Terrorists for prisoners : Comments

By Danny Lamm, published 24/7/2008

Hezbollah and Israel, last week, exchanged the bodies of two kidnapped Israeli soldiers for a convicted terrorist and four others. Is this justice?

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But Israel had the opportunity to negotiate the freedom of these two occupiers. They chose instead to attack the soverign nation of Lebanon. Slaughter thousands of innocent civilians and left behind after their forced withdrawal thousands of those dispicible unexploded cluster bombs.

Spare me your violins ... the Israelis are just as bad as their enemies.
Posted by keith, Thursday, 24 July 2008 10:57:06 AM
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What's the difference between a terrorist and a patriot?
Answer your side.
Objectively I would argue that Israel is a terrorist state a better PR system apparatus of which you are a part. Your wording and context is not a debate but part of a campaign to sell your self made problems/perspective here in some hope that Israel will gain some advantage.
This approach denies reality and paints Israel as being the national version of Big Tobacco, it serves someone else's interests, it doesn't accept the consequences of its actions, when tackled or inhibited it simply markets its deadly spin elsewhere.Legal but morally dubious. This problem is not about an event today it is the consequences of 100 yrs of zionism and 60 years of the immorality of the end justifying the means. Neither is Israel alone in this obscenity.
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 24 July 2008 2:31:08 PM
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Keith,

The Sovereign nation of Lebanon committed an act of war by invading the sovereign nation of Israel and kidnapping two of its citizens.
Posted by Paul.L, Thursday, 24 July 2008 4:15:51 PM
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Examinator, you wrote:

"This problem is not about an event today it is the consequences of 100 yrs of zionism"

Einat Haran had 4 years to live, Yael Haran only two: what did they know about zionism?

Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev were young reservist conscripts, too young to have any influence on Israel's creation and policies. They had families, friends, a job, a life, they were simply born and grew up in Israel, the only place they could call "home", yet all you are able to call those poor souls is "occupiers".

Aren't you yourself an occupier, having taken over Australia's original population (assuming you descend from white settlers)? How come you still live in this terrorist state? How come you allow your children to call Australia home?

You claim that it is all about 60-100 years ago, but in fact it is all about today: Arab and Iranian Islamists are attempting to kill everyone in Israel TODAY, not just 60-100 years ago. With the exception of a few remaining senior-citizens, Israel's population is made of people who were born after their state existed, or were children when it started, yet the bombs and rockets make no distinctions, nor do murderers like Samir Kuntar.

Please save your "immorality of the end justifying the means" to the time when your own home and family are attacked.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 24 July 2008 7:03:12 PM
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I would agree that Australia, like Israel, was founded on acts of terror. And as descendent of white settlers coming to this country in the nineteenth century, I have benefited from the terror inflicted on the local inhabitants who were cleared out of the area I now live.

However, I do not demand that indigenous people live in separate enclaves. I do not use helicopters to shoot them. I do not clear them out of suburbs I may want to move to. I do not destroy their homes because one of their friends or relatives committed a crime and I do not demand they form a separate state. Nor does it worry me if Aboriginal people were (by a miracle) to make up over 50 percent of the Australian population.

Jews have always lived in the area now called Israel - even after the Romans killed many of them in the First and Second Centuries AD. And they have every right to. They have no right, as far as I'm concerned, to maintain a "Jewish state" anymore than Saudi Arabia should be an exclusively "Arab state".

Supporters of the Israeli regime say it would be "demographic suicide" if Arabs were to become the majority in Israel proper. What if I said that we mustn't have too many Jews in Australia or else it would be demographic suicide? Wouldn't that be a tad bigotted and maybe even anti-semitic?

The weird thing about this whole argument is that most Jewish people don't even live in a country supposedly their own. A bit of perspective could be in order.
Posted by DavidJS, Friday, 25 July 2008 9:43:14 AM
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I find it interesting that those that are critical of Israel are critical no matter what the issue is. It is unsurprising then, that when thousands of people take to the streets to welcome home a murderer while on the other side of the border two families went into mourning, those critical of Israel cannot find even an ounce of sympathy in their heart for the families of Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev or the Haran family. Instead, they rehash the same old arguments about the Zionist occupation.
Posted by santiago, Friday, 25 July 2008 1:17:43 PM
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