Fractelle
I have not related your head to a brick wall, or made any reference to any part of your body, or made any type of personalized remarks about you.

I am a very democratic person.

However, many years ago I was a feminist and a reader of feminist literature, until I began to see feminism for what it is, which is a system of discrimination based on gender, with many connections to Marxism.

Feminism has as much equality and democracy as Marxism, which had none.

Romany,

Of course. It's impossible for a woman to do anything wrong, unless influenced by a man somewhere. Women are pure and virtuous and men are evil by nature. I accept that. BTW, I never said anything about it being organised by feminists.

But Bronwyn says all women are opposed to war and if women were in power there would be no war. I have offered an example where women, some even in a feminist group, supported the war and painted men who dared not to join in as cowards

Whitty: "Women are pure and virtuous and men are evil by nature."

That wasn't — by any stretch — what Romany was saying, Whitty. Her post is not emotive, it's entirely rational. If you don't believe that it is historically accurate, then address that. But the heavy-handed sarcasm seems misdirected to me.

Her point is that the group you keep referring to wasn't a "feminist" group. Argue with her, if she's wrong. I've *never* heard Romany saying anything remotely suggesting she believes "women are pure and virtuous and men are evil by nature."

It is of course quite probable that Whitty is wrong, as men seem to dominate that particular statistic as well.

So tell us where you think women have an unfair advantage over men, or are themselves UNFAIR to men under current “equalisation schemes”. Tell us how feminism (or you personally) can help change this.

This article is all about fairness (equal rights, same rights), and it seems a little inconceivable that women are still so disadvantaged in Australian society today, but NEVER themselves cause disadvantage to others. Seems a little incongruous that while equal with men (or better) in every positive human attribute, deny such equality on the negatives.

If gender pay gap approaches 17% for no other reason than choices women make, then perhaps it is due to too many choices being available to her. Why not just narrow those choices, to ensure pay equality. Let’s make sure the same number of women (as men) are in the workforce and in the same jobs, work the same hours, and take the same breaks from work. Universal childcare? Sure – we can afford it when every woman goes to work and pays her share of tax. More of them will have to work in childcare of course, and too bad for those that want to personally raise their children. More too, will be plumbers, miners and CEOs.

This is just the tip of the iceberg of course. While we’re at it, let’s give men equal reproductive and parenting rights too. Let’s see how many take up the challenge when SAME & EQUAL choices are granted to them. Might even lead to sufficient standard of unpaid domestic work. Just imagine the quality of sex!

Sneeker, I reckon this stuff about sex and housework is little more than a snow job. Once upon a time it was being a snag or a meterosexual, being in touch with his feminine side and a whole host of other things that I have forgotten.

A diamond ring only worked until the solid gold ring was on the finger.

So in reality all this stuff has a use by date, and then it ceases to work.

Reminds me of the song about the fool on the hill.

And all the prisoners cried fool, fool.

This diamond ring dont shine, so buy me a car next time.

And all the prisoners cried, Fool Fool

Not the exact words but close enough.

Thomas Ellis author of "The Rantings of a Single Male" wrote that even sex has its limits.

Whitty

”I think you are very naive if you think there would be this nice peaceful world if only women were 'in power'."

Yes, I would be naïve if I believed that, but I don’t. One only has to look at the likes of Maggie Thatcher to realize that getting women into positions of power is not in itself a panacea. I want to see men and women in leadership positions whose decisions reflect the values I have outlined previously. My point is that once we get closer to achieving an even ratio of men and women in these positions, the chances of moving towards a fairer and more sustainable world will I think be increased. Not dramatically, but increased just the same.