Col Rouge: "Btw how much of an aborigine are you?

A full blood of half, quarter or was your mum just frightened by a face at the window when you were being conceived"

You really are an offensive, racist bastard aren't you Col?

Col Rouge,

You are simply a racist. To call you a bastard elevates you.

Keith Kennelly

Any chance of getting back to the topic and reasonable, civil discussion ? There is more at stake over this critical issue than a few petty egos.

Hi Coogeegal.

I recently had an experience that prompted me to mull over a few tough questions. An Indiginous lady I work with made comments last week which seemed to indicate to me that she would like an apology from me.

We have gotten on well for a long time. I was forced to question whether or not some people who identify with being indiginous believe that all people of British descent are guilty of something ( I'm sure there are some that are, just as there are some anglo-saxon people who dress in white gowns and hoods and set fire to crosses - both of these lots are hopefully a small minority).

I am happy to say that it appears I misinterperated what she said as it was not mentioned again. We talked about all sorts of things today but not about the apology.

I do hope some important progress was made today, if only symbolic. I think it would be a good thing for indiginous ceremony to be included in the opening of parliament from now on in recognition of the first Australians. The opening is all about symbolism of English history after all.

"RobP you might think there is something special in “leveling”, you might even think it represents “change”."

So what do you call yesterday's speech by Rudd to the Stolen Generations? It was a great leveller if ever there was one. Do you perchance have a view on whether this represented a healing process and, as such, a positive thing to do for Aboriginals?

Of course, there is a time to even things up and of course it is a form of change. Not to everyone equally, but to some people at least. The great thing about the speech was that even libertarians like yourself shouldn't have been bothered by it.

CJ Morgan “You really are an offensive, racist bastard aren't you Col?”

No, my parents were married.

So, did yours jump over the broom stick or were you simply spawned and left for the pond water to do the rest?

Keith Kennelly “You are simply a racist. To call you a bastard elevates you.”

Ah Keith how self righteous of you to comment.

Because I ask someone, who claims to be aboriginal and because I know a lot of “aboriginals” are not 100% aboriginal, due to the natural process of inter-ethnic marriage/coupling and because I am English, the mongrel race of Anglos/Saxons/Romans/Celts/Normans and Jews etc., an individuals “ethnic diversity” is of interest to me.

Asking such a question no more “racist” than an interest in anthropology is “racist”

The only folk who would find it so are those who are hiding a dark side of themselves, so dark, they are ashamed of their own baseness.

However, I see you and CJ Morgan both comment in the defensive, so I take it you share the level which CJ Morgan generally aspires to, the same baseness of character which qualifies as racist pond life.

RobP “It was a great leveller if ever there was one.”

A minority section of a society which demands the public apology of the majority of a society is the opposite of “leveling”. It is at best appeasement. The sort of action which panders to the worst characteristics of folk and ultimately fails to resolve the problem.

In that sense, it is typically socialist in construct: it requires huge amounts of effort and resources, grandiose speeches by political potentates, saddles the tax payer with an increased burden and obviously, actually delivers nothing to the intended recipients

Neville Chamberlain failed to produce the “peace in our time” which he claimed in 1938 when he tried to appease Hitler.

This appeasing effort of Krudds will not reduce the fraudulent clamor for institutionalized, ethnically biased, cargo culture payments, to be financed by ordinary Australian tax payers.