NOW THE EXCLUSIVE BRETHREN LINE UP FOR HOWARD, I HOPE HE JOINS GEORGE BUSH AFTER 24TH NOV. THEY CAN BOTH MEET THEIR BRETHREN SUPPORTERS AND PRAY THAT THE MESS IN IRAQ DOESN'T BRING THE U.S. EMPIRE TO IT'S KNEES WITH THEM!

So many people these days claim to follow Jesus Christ - and yet their actions would suggest they don't have a clue about what Jesus taught and more importantly they don't have any idea about the example He lived.

Can you imagine Howard giving his life for peace without retaliation?

The prince of peace believed love and friendship were the way to peace - not bombs, sharing EVERYTHING He had with others.

Howard and many other modern, lapel-pin-wearing-only "christians" claim to follow Him just to get voted in so they can pursue their self-serving agenda. Unfortunately people genuinely trying to be good "Christians" are fooled. Let's hope they won't be again. Too many other people's lives might depend upon it.

More than a million live shave now been lost in Iraq, 4,000,000 people have been displaced and, according to Oxfam, 8,000,000 more are suffering form malnutrition - most of whom are children.

Howard, Bush and Blair are much more like the Herod of the Gospels than they are the Christ of the Gospels.

Kevin... you are a breath of fresh air... well said!

The Christian ideals of "turn the other cheek" "love thine enemy" "do unto others" etc. seem to be lost on many Christians.

I am appalled how some Christians seem to put John Howard number 1 and Jesus' teachings number 2... Are they really Christians?

Christianity to me embodies love, forgiveness, peace, caring, empathy, compassion, righteousness and honesty and we should demand it from our leaders who claim to be Christian.

A politician who calls himself Christian is using a reference I can't check... and so I have to watch his deeds to know his true heart.

Howard has been too dishonest too often for Aussies to give him another turn...

He is the "wolf in sheeps clothing" and always has been!

Johnj,

Although I agree with your sentiments- DN is definitely a fool- you have attributed to Mark Twain ("It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt,") a passage which originally comes from the bible. I can't remember the book, chapter, or verse, as I have done all I can to forget about the first 20 years of my life, but I must say, one of the things that has swayed me back to the right wing of politics in the 10 years since I escaped from my fundamentalist upbringing is the astounding ignorance left-wing wuss-bags have of Christianity and the bible.

Kevin and Opinionated, never change, mates, go for it. Further, it is so welcome that others of our OlO's are thinking in a similar manner.

Let us have more of 'em....

Regards, BB, WA

Dozer, I assume you mean Proverbs 17:28

"Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue."

Mark Twain had a better understanding of the Bible than most, and it was more than enough to convince him that Christianity had very little going for it.

But I have to say preferring right-wing politics because some lefties are ignorant of the Bible is about as sensible as preferring left-wing politics because some right-wingers are ignorant of Origin of the Species, or Das Kapital.