Hanson has grouped all Muslims (apart from the Christian ones - wherever they are) as people who shouldn't be allowed to come to Australia for a given period. That is racism (or if you want to get technical, religious bigotry) because a group has been singled out on the basis of prejudice ie: prejudging a group of people on the basis of assumed characteristics. Nearly everytime she opens her mouth she condemns herself as a racist. Or maybe she revels in being a racist. Either way, she fits the definition. To put it another way, if I declared that no more Jews should enter Australia because they are incompatible with our lifestyle or they are diseased I could justifiably be labelled an anti-semite.

Of course then I could argue my comments were taken out of context. Or make an exception for Christian Jews.

Oh irfan: In another post you just disappeared without answering the questions asked of you. Then low and behold you pop up again with "some Clergy cannot keep their hands off little boys" Strange this coming from one whose religion allows pederasty - that's sex with boys who are hairless or not having reached puberty - but sees sex between men as a sin, funny religion eh irf? Not only that but one of the "rewards?" in your paradise is the female virgins off course but also a number of perpetually untouched little boys. Which will you have in your arabian tribal paradise my pagan moslem friend? Regards, numbat

Well Irfan there are many Muslims who not only refuse to intergrate but want to impose their entire vile belief system upon all Australians.

The very fact that Sheik Hilaly has not been sacked shows that he has many followers in the Muslim community in Australia.His foul and disgusting attacks on our society which affords him and his ilk of a leisurely lifestyle in our country is beyond any notions of understandering or tolerance.Hilaly's apologist Keyser Trad should also think seriously about whether he has a future here.

Muslims are very vocal about their religious views being offended,yet balk at suppporting the very country which gives them sustanence and freedom from oppression.

We view many Muslims in our country as biting the hand that feeds them,and Muslims seemingly,don't want to prove us wrong.

Irfan,
You like giving people labels. You have called people racists, armchair nazis and now you call me a Sectarian Bigot. I accept that and am honored to be the first person to be called such on OLO.

A bigot is a person who is not tolerant and yes I am not tolerant of those that flaunt our laws and social standards, promote disharmony, conduct cockfighting and carry out FGM.

I differ from Fred Nile, Pauline Hanson and many others in that I do not think there is enough evidence to stop the immigration of muslims as a whole. However there is more than enough history and recent evidence to say we should stop the immigration of Lebanese muslims on the grounds of anti social attitudes and conduct. Stop immigration of serbs and croats for the same reasons.

If you, or anyone, can show me evidence that Leb muslims are fine upstanding citizens who promote harmony and croats and serbs are peace loving and their fighting is just youthful play, I will change my mind.

I also think we should stop immigrating those groups that persist in staging cock fights and any groups that carry out FGM. We should not compound problems by introducing more of the same. In addition, I would deny citizenship to any of the above that are not already citizens. They have shown they are not worthy of the rights of our citizenship. If any of the above groups feel they are being unfairly treated, they can blsme others in their group for that.

I want our descsndants to have a harmonous and cohesive society and it will not come about if we continue to import those that will not or cannot be part of our community.

I informed this thread earkier that there were people that expressed concern that if Sheik Hilali goes there will be no one to disclose what muslims are thinking and teaching their kids.

Well, no need to worrry. Sheik Swaiti, in Canbera, apparently praised Islamic Jihad in Palestine, Afghanisstan, Iraq, kasmir and Chechyna and called on God to grant them victory, in Fridays sermon.

According to the "Aus" today, this was in the Arabic version but was left out of the English translation.

This Sheik also works for the ATO and is under investigation by the ATO for not declaring monies received from Saudi Arabia.

Looks like all is not lost, if Hilali goes.

There is a single unsettling point that a lot of discussion seems to overlook. Many of us in Australia have come to understand that there is a component or piece of dogma somewhere in Islam that promotes the idea that Islam should be dominant, and non-believers are to be either converted or obliterated. This seems to lead to the idea that Jihad, which started out to be that "inner struggle " for each individual to understand and come to terms with his Islamic faith, should be seen as an obligation to progress the idea of dominance by Islam. By any means including subversion and violence. This is the part that tests our national commitment to inclusive multiculturalism. In fact, it is scary. Because it is wild eyed and irrational. If there are indeed reasons why the Islamic nations and communities need to rise up and assert themselves to achieve a proper place in world equilibrium, let there be more discussion about what those reasons are, and how the issues might be satisfied. Is it about oil, expolitation, the awfulness of the Crusades, the competing elements of logic in the respective belief systems ...... ?