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By Shakira Hussein, published 11/4/2007

Taj Din al-Hilali seems determined to, once again, damage the moderate Muslim cause.

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Banjo says: "Ms hanson [sic], has a right to advocate that certain people not be allowed to immigrate here, on the grounds of incompatability"

I say: that is racist statement pure and simple.

Banjo says I introduced African people as a "straw man".

I say: it is a further illustration of what a racist Hanson is. And I also say that Hanson has a right to say what she likes and I say I have a right to call her a racist.

And I guess Hilaly's statements about women being "uncovered meat" weren't sexist at all but actually showed a senstivity towards women, eh Banjo?
Posted by DavidJS, Thursday, 12 April 2007 2:10:30 PM
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What a REFRESHING read,
our press should print less from Hilali
& more from Shakira Hussein .

Though it’s important to remember that Hilai is not just
an errant, isolated individual but is probably more
in line with the dominant, traditional strain in Islam than Shakira. The lack of a critical reaction from the Egyptian media re his earlier outburst in Cairo, speaks volumes ( they obviously saw nothing out of the ordinary )Can you image the uproar if a Pauline Hanson, or others, had said Anglos had more right –(the Aus media establishment - not to mention many of our noble OLO posters - would have raised the roof)

Re Led Zeppelins fans reaction/stereotyping- it is a typical human reaction.The real test is how figures of influence /authority reacted to the parodying of something they held sacred .Imagine if Led Zeppelin had the will & wherewithal to call on their fans to kill the offender & anyone associated with them, & were able to offer instant gratification in heaven via 16 virgins for anyone who took up the offer…

That aside-good article Shakira –more please…
Posted by Horus, Thursday, 12 April 2007 6:48:03 PM
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One thing I should like to know, and perhaps Shakira can enlighten me if she reads my post, is this.

Do Hilali's comments in any way influence the attitudes of any number of Islamic Australians? I realise that most including Shakira are opposed to his views but are there any substantial numbers who would learn from his example? Or would the majority just wish the old bugger would disappear and ignore him?

I would guess that Aussie Muslims in time will become agnostics and iconoclasts with the rest of us, and that what seems to be happening in France will not occur here. We are like that, it is in our convict formation and effects every group of immigrants who come here.

Any answers, and please no Bible or Q'uran bashing, I just couldn't stand any more of that.
Posted by logic, Thursday, 12 April 2007 9:56:28 PM
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One thing I should like to know, and perhaps Shakira can enlighten me if she reads my post, is this.

Do Hilali's comments in any way influence the attitudes of any number of Islamic Australians? I realise that many including Shakira are opposed to his views but are the any substantial numbers who would learn from his example? Or would the majority just wish the old bugger would disappear and ignore him?

I would guess that Aussie Muslims in time will become agnostics and iconoclasts with the rest of us, and that what seems to be happening in France will not occur here. We are like that, it is in our convict formation and effects every group of immigrants who come here.

Any answers, and please no Bible or Q'uran bashing, I just couldn't stand any more of that.
Posted by logic, Thursday, 12 April 2007 10:19:04 PM
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DavidJS,
You really are something else!

First you state that you know that Hanson detests muslims. I say you are making that up and you are unable to refute that. Now you say i am racist for saying "Anyone, including Ms Hanson, can advocate that certain people not be allowed to immigrate here, on the grounds of incompatability" Thats a racist statement?

In 2006, Ms Hanson makes public allegations that our health screening of Africian refugees is inadequate. That she is concerned of the risk this imposes to Australian citizens. Later her concerns are shown to have some merrit.

Now you say this illustrates just how racist Hanson is?

According to your mind, the term racist can mean whatever you want it to and cover any situation you wish. But it is a good term to throw at others, especially when your other defenses are shown wanting.

You certainly have a right to call anyone a racist. Ms Hanson, me, the Governer General or the Pope even. Just how much credence others give that call is another matter entirely.

And you still have not shown any evidence that you know that Hanson detests muslims.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 13 April 2007 12:18:21 AM
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Banjo, to attribute a set of negative characteristics to an entire race and/or sect of people constitutes racism and/or sectarian bigotry.

Fred Nile says we need to ban Muslim immigrants until a study is done of the extent of their integration. So, it seems some Muslims don't integrate.

Then again, some clergy can't keep their hands off little boys. Should we therefore not allow churches to run kindergartens, orphanages and preschools?

Bigotry is bigotry, even if it is based on traces of truth.
Posted by Irfan, Friday, 13 April 2007 12:49:44 AM
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