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By Shakira Hussein, published 11/4/2007

Taj Din al-Hilali seems determined to, once again, damage the moderate Muslim cause.

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tapp - it's quite easy to say he should be kicked out, but I rather suspect that while a call like that is easy to make, it's harder to nut out where you draw that line.

Logically, the first thing you're saying there is that Australian citizenship can be revoked. Tell me, does this also apply to Australians who don't have a second nation to go to?
Your precedent there is, that Australian citizenship is not permanent, and is at the whim of the government.

Next point - what exactly, do you consider a deportable offence? Who decides? Effectively, would the People's Party be giving politicians permission to revoke the citizenship of individuals and send them overseas?

Do they need to have been tried in a criminal court? What are the charges? Are you honestly telling me, that we'll give someone a suspended sentence for something like assault, but we're willing to send someone overseas for vilification? I take it then, you don't subscribe to the notion that actions speak louder than words.
It's all well and good to run with a popular notion, but politicians need to operate within a certain framework, or else we live in little more than a banana republic.

I don't like Hilaly and I certainly don't condon anything he says.

But I'm not a huge fan of empty rhetoric, & I believe in due process.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 4:24:28 PM
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This would come under The Australian Peoples Immigration policy.

He doesnt like australia
he doesnt like the people
he tell people everywhere he goes what he thinks of this great nation of ours

And i do believe he still does have a country to go to

This is australia and since he doesnt like it i am quite happy to place my size 8 1/2 gp boot size to his a##se to send him on his way.

People come to australia for a better life and those who wish to come here and flout the law i am quite happy to send them packing with a no return to australia.

Immigration should be stopped/ halted thats it.

It is not beneficial to this country to keep bringing in people when we have those unemployed.

Wish to give up some of your water
wish to give up some housing
wish to give up some of that poisious food that we keep importing.
maybe not the last one.
But that comes under australian product.
Here we are talking policy, which at least i can refer you too.
Isnt it time we did what is right for the people and this country of ours or should we keep towing the liberal and labor party agenda.
A agenda created by those party's for themselves.

Whereas the only agenda TAPP has is for the people and this country and doing the right thing.
When you decide to do the right thing it is better than just playing follow the leader

The Australian Peoples Party

www.tapp.org.au

members and candidates wanted
Posted by tapp, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 5:03:24 PM
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DavidJS,
You said "I know Hanson detests muslims......"

I put it to you that is a lie. You know no such thing.

You have been picked up making up stuff. The correct thing to do would be to apologize, and maybe add that you said it without thinking or because it suited your agenda, but you haven't.

You have further demeaned yourself by endeavouring to belittle the person of your unfounded comments. Your character on display!

TRTL
I agree with you. Tapp, We would be no better than the worst regimes in the world if we started withdrawing citizenship from those we disagreed with. That action would only be warranted if a person was convicted of a terrorist attack, and then only if he had dual citizenship.

We can, under present law, only deport a non citizen if he is guilty of an offense with a 2 year jail sentence. For example, the K brothers should be deported when their sentences are served.

The fact is that Sheik Hilali is a citizen and can enjoy all the rights that all citizens have. The same as you and me.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 5:21:40 PM
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Now you are not going to get rid of Sheik Hilali that easily.Labor under Paul Keating created this bucket of bile.Keating went against all the advice of his own Public Service and welcomed the Sheik with open arms.

John Howard might be just tempted to keep this smelly old rag around long enough just to remind the electorate of how Labor will import votes of any ilk just to secure power.As Graham Richardson was so fond of saying,"We'll do whatever it takes."
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 6:50:28 PM
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You have real courage Shakira. I think the vast majority of us are on your side, and are listening to your common sense.

The Yanks will, negotiate with Iran, will fail to stop their move to become nuclear armed and everyone will learn to deal with the consequences...which I don't believe will involve any sort of armed intervention. Iran is not Iraq nor Afghanistan.
Posted by keith, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 8:36:29 PM
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Great article Shakira. No doubt you will be corrected on your misinterpretation/denial/leftwing/ accademic thinking of the 'true' nature of Islam by very knowledgeable non-Muslims.

There are many non Muslims who have known and know Muslims of various ethnic groups, various sects and various levels of commitment to their faith and found them to be like any other group of people.

What's a moderate Muslim anyway?
Posted by yvonne, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 9:22:46 PM
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