Dang - caint git no ansers from that ther molecat, Perseus.

Jus goofy billy speke 'n sum frof and spittle.

'Scuse me Pers, ah fink ahv'e got sumfin in ma ah!

Live exports are cruel and unecessary. No argument.

But just one question to the person from WA. Why on earth would anyone pay $60 for a sheep when the only competeition is willing to pay just $10? I have been to livestock auctions and by definition there is only 1 bid difference between who buys the animals and who doesn't, maybe 1 or 2 $ in the price of a sheep. I've never heard the auctioneer go from $10 to $60 in one hit. If I was an exporter I wouldn't pay more than $10.50 for a sheep!

"If I was an exporter I wouldn't pay more than $10.50 for a sheep!"

Well Piggy, now you know why we don't like selling to greedy people
like you :)

Live sheep are priced on their value in the Middle East. Buyers
sign contracts, long before any sheep are bought here. Shippers
take their margin for transport, food etc, then offer growers
a price to fill the order, through agents. Few of those sheep
ever go through a saleyard. For Hajj lambs, contracts are written
forward, often months ahead.

In fact of the 7 million sheep sold each year in WA, only about
1.5 million would ever see a saleyard.

Shippers do buy in the yards, but few, as few are offered that way.
An auctioneer, knowing that they will bid much higher, would be
a fool starting bidding at 10$, it would be too much work.

Processors won't bid on those live sheep, they'd rather buy the
el cheapo sheep, like ewes not wethers, etc, where they have
a higher margin. Like you, they are greedy :)

The Greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.-Mahatma Gandhi

The solution is A Kind Meat Proposal. This venture has gained approval in Western Australia as reported by FarmOnline and The Rural News. This cooperative is a joint venture between a Malaysian corporation and a WA wheatbelt farmer to export Halal certified meat for distribution throughout the Muslim world.

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/stories/s1096508.htm

A group of West Australian producers has formed a joint venture with Malaysia, to supply the world with halal meat products.

The Wheatbelt Growers Co-operative from Dowerin has signed an agreement with the Perak State Development Corporation to provide 100,000 sheep and 16,000 cattle each year.

Perak wants to become the world distributor of halal food to Muslim countries, with a potential market of 300 billion people.

Chief Minister Tajol Rosli says that'll provide a valuable alternative for Australia's live export trade.

"As it is now, halal food from Malaysia is recognized throughout the world.

"There are some countries that produce halal food, but it is not recognised, especially by the Middle East.

The deal consists of 100,000 sheep and 16,000 cattle would be killed in WA each year under halal slaughter codes and the meat exported to join venture partner Perak State Development Corporation in Malaysia.

The cooperative is negotiating for the slaughter to be carried out at Walsh's in Bunbury and the first meat is expected to be exported in 12 months, but is hoped it will happen sooner.

We know and are very concerned that this export trade has provided millions of animals and still does, for a sacrificial ceremony which happens every year, to the detriment of thousands of Australian jobs.

The money this trade returns can be replaced with processed meat. The reality is that there are a few exporters and overseas importers who make an enormous amount of money while economies of rural and regional Australia are dying due to abattoir and related industry closures which provided the bulk of employment in many towns

“I worked in the Arabian Gulf on an offshore drilling rig for many years and have seen these ships carrying these sheep go past on a regular basis. You can smell these ships long before they come over the horizon, and for days afterward dead sheep would be floating past the rig, this is because the tide runs in a circular motion.

We could not understand why there were so many sheep tossed into the sea on a single day, until we saw a couple of them trying to swim, then we realised that this must have been the final clear out of those animals that would not have passed inspection, or would have died before sale.

Unless you have lived in the Middle East, you can have no comprehension of the people or customs or conditions that exist in that area.

To say that you have to send sheep live because there is no refrigeration is absolute rubbish. There are supermarkets there just as there are here, and they sell frozen meat of every description.

There is no way that anyone with any sense of decency could ever condone the live animal trade! Not only is it cruel beyond belief, it is also economic stupidity. The fate that falls to some of these animals is indescribable and horrific.”

We know and are very concerned that this export trade has provided millions of animals and still does, for a sacrificial ceremony which happens every year, to the detriment of thousands of Australian jobs.

The money this trade returns can be replaced with processed meat. The reality is that there are a few exporters and overseas importers who make an enormous amount of money while economies of rural and regional Australia are dying due to abattoir and related industry closures which provided the bulk of employment in many towns

Sorry Yabby

I know thats been up before and I dont want to bore you but perhaps some members of the public did not see it last time.

Boy its gone real quiet in here. `Hope its not something I said`.

Yabby I have to thank You again for pushing me in the right direction with some of the names you supplied.

I received a call back today and they guys were pretty reasonable.

Thats a huge break through to be honest with you.

Its all very well having Muslim Contacts and even working in conjunction with RSPCA QLD RSPCA but without farmer contacts it means nothing.

Of course I know few people in WA but hopefully thanks to you that might change .
They were telling me that they also work with Dawn Low who is a fantasic lady who has done much towards Animal Welfare and Live Exports.
They apparently even invited her to sit in at the meetings and included her on boards.
That gives me some hope.
After all the damage done by extremists we sure need people like Dawn.

Yabby I was thinking its been a long time now taken to organise your- `The Adventures of Yabby Trip`.

So if you would like to pick a country perhaps we could go ahead now and organise your artillery .

Tell me if you mind terribly much and if so I guess I will just have to cancel it.

If you dont mind taking the trip I do hope others will get involved and come up with some interesting suggestions.

I think we all need to lighten up and others might enjoy planning it .

Maybe some even more so than I.

I had to cancel your last trip because Muslims dont like pork if you recall.