TurnRightThenLeft; Are you blaming our system on why these people behave with criminal instinct? I do not go for the lower eco/socio arguement either as everyone is responsible for their own behaviour. I'm Poor is never an excuse nor should it.

Too often we see this happening over and over. Enough is enough. Behave, or get out.

TNT; Sorry mate, no links as this knowledge is from what Asian's(chinese) informed me when I lived in Sydney. Not to forget what happened after the Lebenese went around beating, stabbing, etc after Cronulla Day. According to many of those invovled, groups of young Asian's drove around trying to get the young caucasians to group up together against the young Lebenese for they were sick of the violence against their females.

TRTL.....

"yes".. if the issues I heard Obama glorying in were the same.

It was not just the fact that he prefixed 'BLACK' to many of the issues, it was the issues themselves.
Forgive me that I can't recall them right now, but I do recall thinking "hmm..thats a bit strange..why focus just on the 'Black group over 'that' issue"/

If someone was an advocate for Aboriginal causes in a discriminatory or unfair way, I'd sure take issue with it. Remember Aunti Pauline ? she as battered from pillar to post just for wanting all Aussies to be treated the same.....including Aboriginals.

OH.. I head on the bastion of all political Authority the "Daily Show" that Obama's great x 3 grandfather 'may' have owned slaves, and another ancestor was in fact Irish :) I can't vouch for the truth of those things but John Stewart usually starts with something true and makes light of it.
All we need now is for the Colbert report to do Obama.

Re the topic... I think there are bigots on ALL sides of social and political questions. Why 'conservative' facade only ?
-enjoy....

Irfan - you're always playing the person, not the issue they raise. How about answering the questions put to you?
And by the way, did you know it was the Arab Islamic countries were the last to ditch the slave trade? Very progressive!
Most Muslims don't want to live in a Muslim-ruled country, if Muslim emigration is anything to go by (that is, they're leaving their countries, after having forced non-Muslims out of their countries in large numbers).
The Muslims who don't want to live under Sharia have no defence against it being imposed upon them by the Muslims who do wish to live under Sharia. This situation will soon come to pass in Western countries, which have welcomed Muslims in large numbers and may soon regret it.
And so Muslims who have chosen to leave find Islam chasing them to their new countries, and will loose the protection of the rule of Western law that they previously had in their new country.
And how much longer will those non-Muslims in their own western countries loose their freedoms too? Do any of you know why and how Lebanon was created, and what the neighbouring Muslims did to it?

'....Now is the time for Western intellectuals who claim to be antiracists and committed to human rights to stand with these dissidents. To do so requires that we adopt a universal standard of human rights and abandon our loyalty to multicultural relativism, which justifies, even romanticises, indigenous Islamist barbarism, totalitarian terrorism and the persecution of women, religious minorities, homosexuals and intellectuals. Our abject refusal to judge between civilisation and barbarism, and between enlightened rationalism and theocratic fundamentalism, endangers and condemns the victims of Islamic tyranny.

Ibn Warraq has written a devastating work that will be out by the summer. It is entitled Defending the West: A Critique of Edward Said’s Orientalism. Will Western intellectuals also dare to defend the West?'

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article1480090.ece

I think that the gloves are off Irfan.

Secularism will now take aim at Islam - for the sake of humanity. The casualities will be the divine origin of the Koran and the Prophethood of Muhammad. All will be laid bare. Islam WILL eventually become just another historical episode in the great epic of the human race.

TR, try telling that to 1.2 billion people across the globe.

"The Muslims who don't want to live under Sharia have no defence against it being imposed upon them by the Muslims who do wish to live under Sharia. This situation will soon come to pass in Western countries, which have welcomed Muslims in large numbers and may soon regret it."

camo, which Muslim countries have you visited lately? Can you honestly say that you have studied the results of elections in Muslim-majority states? Let's look at our own region. How many seats do groups like JI have in the Indonesian parliament? If sharia is so popular, why does the Malaysian Islamic Party (PAS) only hold power in one state? Why has the Jamaat-i-Islami never held government in Pakistan or Bangladesh? And where are the sharia supporters in Bosnia, Albania, Morocco, Mauritania, Mauritius, Turkey and Jordan?