Everytime Irfan posts the radical conservatives turn his thread into a Monty Python-style circus.

Oh, I'm xenophobic and I'm okay,
I sleep all night and I slag all day.

CHORUS: He's a xenophobe, and he's okay,
He sleeps all night and he slags all day.

I cut down trees, I eat my lunch,
I go to the lava-try.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea.

Aussies: He cuts down trees, he eats his lunch,
He goes to the lava-try.
On Wednesdays 'e goes shoppin'
And has buttered scones for tea.

CHORUS

I cut down blacks, I skip and jump,
I like to cuss and condemn,
I put on Hitler clothing,
And hang around in chat rooms.

Aussies : He cuts down blacks, he skips and jumps,
He likes to cuss and condemn.
He puts on Hitler clothing
And he hangs around.... In chatrooms..??
CHORUS
I wanta see lefties die, I wanta see their family cry,
I like to vilify Mossies,
I put on my jack boots,
And stamp around my chatroom

CHORUS
Aussies: He wants to see lefties die, He wants to see their family cry,?
He likes to vilify Mossies, lefties and all greens,
HE puts on his jack boots,?
And stamps around this chat room (while he hides behind his non de plume).?

CHORUS

I chop down trees, I wear jack boots,
Suspendies and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie
Just like my dear Fuhrer.

Aussies: He cuts down trees, he wears jack boots
Suspendies? and a .... a Bra??
(spoken, raggedly) What's this? Wants to be a *girlie*? Oh, My!
And I thought you were so manly! Poofter!


All: He's an xenophobe, and he's okaaaaaaayyy.....



Dear Moderator,
I wish to complain on the stronglyest possible terms about that previous entry about xenophobes who wear womens' clothes. Some of my best friends are xenophobic, and only a FEW of them wear women’s clothing (or want to kill lefties). How dare Ronnie slag back at the Perfected?

Yours faithfully,
Kommandant Bigrock Strongbloke,


P.S. I have never kissed OLO's editor, Graham Y (or Irfan).

The précis blurb for this article says that "Liberty and xenophobia don't make comfortable bedfellows". Can Irfan please publish a follow-up along the lines of "Whinging about Islamophobia while simultaneously promoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion does make for very, very strange bedfellows"? Of course, such an article would have to be a lot longer than this current one as there is a lot more hypocrisy to expose in the Arab and Muslim world.

Irfan, "Bosnia and Herzegovina was a multi-ethnic society. Before the civil war the Serbs made up 40% of the country, the Muslims 38% and the Croats 22%."(http://www.nationbynation.com/Bosnia/Population.html)
Muslims are incresingly identifying themselves as a race and abandoning their ethnicity. It is not surprising when Islam promotes practices that leads to bigotry. Firstly, I am unclean to my Muslim friends because I eat pork. In school there are separate trays and kitchen for eating and cooking utensils, Muslim and non-Muslims are to be kept separate. I don't understand why my Muslims friends can't touch my friendly dog. Over the years women Muslim colleagues put on the head-scarf, refusing handshakes and some veil themselves when not working. When a female Muslim doctor examined me for an ailment, she used a pencil!! Surprising that Muslim refugees are seeking asylum refuge in Australia but not in Saudi Arabia. Please explain Irfan.

Spendocrat,
The atrocities listed were carried out by those who claimed to do so in the name of Islam. The figures are probably grossly under the actual deaths and injuries as some places in Africa do not have good world media connections, and those that die from their injuries later are not counted. I am glad someone keeps count so we can appreciate the extent of the atrocities.

Spider,
Can you supply any evidence or newspaper clippings about the Lebs assualting Asian girls. I have not heard of this and would like to know.

Banjo,
you are right to be concerned about those stats (Islamic terrorism). And I would be a fool to ignore them. Cant address that all here.

Just going to answer why I AM safer here than in Aus/UK (I know my own experiences!). I think mostly comes down to 2 very simple things.

1. The laws here in these countries are no-nonsense
with emphasis on rights of society over the rights of the offender. The result being people feel less likely to challenge others/law.

2. these countries are very traditional/conservative.
leading to greater stability, social cohesion & and respect. Constant/rapid change leads to uncertainty.

The social problems we have in Aus/UK I blame fairly & sqaurely on western idealistic thinking which tries to be all things to all people (which is more common on the left than the right). The sort that has created a quagmire in Iraq (they'll all come running out yelling "free at last - lets all of us hold hands & sing")

I repeat, I don't think Islam per se is the trouble. It isn't a trouble where the society demands high standards of conduct (backed by the law) & is very sure of itself, like Singapore. I think you will find that Islam is more of a problem where societies are less sure of themselves and/or are more liberal, like some western countries.

Solution? Australia also needs to have strong values, be clear on what it stands for (just like they are) so that everyone knows what the ground rules are. I don't think we do right now. Eg, if we say we truly value freedom of speech, then let the Muhammed cartoonists publish. If we don't, then stop saying we do. No-one believes us. If we say there is zero tolerance for thug behaviour, then show us you mean it with tough sentences. You know we dont when recent-arrival thugs can snigger in the faces of judges and still get off lightly. How can people (local & ethnic) respect a country which is so soft & unsure of itself? They don't & it shows.

To Ronnies Peters & Irfan,

Not all people who oppose Islam are inherently bad as you imply. Some oppose Islam with a good conscience and for legitimate reasons. What's more, you can't accuse those individuals who have apostatised from Islam as being xenophobic - they are no stranger to Islam and understand it intimately. The following statement comes from some apostates. I couldn't agree more with their sentiment;

'We are apostates of Islam. We denounce Islam as a false doctrine of hate and terror. However we are not against Muslims who are our own kin and relatives. We do not advocate hate and violence. Muslims are the main victims of Islam. Our goal is to educate them and let them see the truth. We are against Islam and not the Muslims. We strive to bring the Muslims into the fold of humanity. Eradicate Islam so our people can be liberated, so they can prosper and break away from the pillory of Islam. We would like to see Islamic countries dedicate more time to science and less time to Quran and Sharia. We would like to see them prosper and contribute to human civilization. We would like to see the draconian laws of Islam eliminated and people are treated humanely. We strive for freedom of beliefs, for equality of gender and for oneness of mankind.'

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/faq_AOI.htm