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Is multiculturalism really 'mushy'? : Comments
By Jieh-Yung Lo, published 27/2/2007Multiculturalism may be abandoned as a policy but it continues to live on as a value.
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Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 8:14:52 PM
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Frank,
Now Frank I think you’re the one whose is “ being silly”( to use a quote from your earlier post to David)… 1) Lets start by reviewing your position re democracy: The first line you took was -MC had been legitimized by the electorate having electing successive govts that favoured MC. But when it was pointed out to you that successive govts from both sides of politics supporting the same issue did NOT constituted a choice … You jumped to –oh well, the electorate didn’t need to vote on this issue. It seems mighty like you’ve got your mind set on supporting MC –regardless of the facts or democracy… Posted by Horus, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 12:33:45 AM
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FrankGol dismisses the assertion that "MC is simply a philosophy that rates original culture ahead of national loyality" as a "fiction" of a "fevered imagination". Such unfounded, dogmatic certitude on behalf of FrankGol is breathtaking.
I refer to the pertinent example of an OLO author and multicultural industry beneficiary by the name of Jieh-Yung Lo. Rather than identify himself as Australian, Mr. Lo's revealingly describes himself as an "Australian-born Chinese man". And this Chinese man has the audacity to lecture Australians on why they should embrace multiculturalism. Link: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=5537 The Land of Oz is increasingly resembling an ethno-cultural Tower of Babel (please excuse my politically incorrect biblical reference). Posted by Oligarch, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 1:17:14 AM
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There is nothing like a good old fashioned racial argument in the name of multiculturalism. Australian born Chinese and Australian born Greeks and Australian born.... etc., etc. Until the money runs out and a new budget is in the making then it's all singing Australia Uber Alles.
I came to Australia for the culture.... My Own. And it's up to the Australians to ensure the perpetuation of my culture. You never know. One day we might paint a rock pink or mold some clay into the shape of a bottle opener, or do an abstract drift wood carving that kinda looks like a fish...then we'll see who has the last laugh. Then you'll have wished you fully supported us from the beginning. Multiculturalism has been so effective in Australia that the govermint had ta make a "Office of Cultural Harmony" to police the various cultures and see that they all get along. Oh, Man. There's nuttin like a good joke. Posted by aqvarivs, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 3:36:25 AM
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Frank,
2) A DAY IN THE LIFE OF MULTICULTURAL AUSTRALIA ( as experienced from the street level, -not the pulpit level, which is normally your perspective Frank) i) An employee from XYZ group tells her employer, a large govt authority, that unless she gets the next promotion , She will cry discrimination . She does get the next promotion & the one after that as well. While other Australians -equally qualified & experienced - but not belonging to any officially recognised MC minority, languish… ii) Employees a warned they must not display any pictures of partly clad females .A man from a minority is however allowed to display revealing pictures of his family& friends since it is ‘traditional’ for them to dress that way … iii) Two employees are in the canteen .They are discussing the situation in the middle east-while they eat lunch .They are over heard to express views that are considered ‘offensive’ by a woman at the nearby table . They are reported & both of the offenders are sacked forthwith. The govt authority proudly relays the event to employees as a 'warning' … iv) A woman from XYZ minority grew up in a high-status family. She had access to nannies, chauffers, private school education, speaks perfect English ( & I may add maintains a very superior attitude) . She is classified for MC purposes as a minority .As a result she gains access to special in-house training & ‘hands-up” initiatives while other Australians raised in farming & working class backgrounds, but born here, are ignored … [ all the above are true stories - not make believe] Posted by Horus, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 4:35:07 AM
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Happy Harmony Day everybody :)
Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 8:02:49 AM
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Your sarcasim won't do you much good. If you thought pedophilia was only carried out by Aussie blokes and sex slavey existed because of demand by Aussie blokes and incest the same. I would have to say you were blind, stupid and niave. You need to do a lot more research.One thing you are right about is that they are crimes here and rightly so.
When I say these matters are aspects of some cultures, I mean exactly that Pedophilia, incest and sex and work slavery are part of some cultures. Look them up. In some cultures it is common for parents to sell their children into slavery. Pedophilia and incest are also common in some societies. Have you not heard of "child brides", for example.
By saying "nope" bennie indicated that he did not believe there would be an increase in alien aspects of cultures if we lowered our standards and did away with our laws. The point I was making is that we, the host country, make the laws and set the standards. Even if it is against their culture. Immigrants have to accept that.
The term multiculture is itself not really correct. Migrants may have to give up some aspects of their culture to meet our standards, so therefore how can we claim to be multicultural. We are multi-racial.
bennie,
One more thing about migrants learning English. We were holding English classes for migrants looong before MC ever came along and with the demise of MC we will go on holding Englich classes for migrants.
You are right about this not being England and I am most grateful for that as we do not have the extent of their problems caused by weak migration policy, MC and letting illegal immigrants into the community. Of the illegals, many are being ripped off by unscrupulous landlords and employers.
The big question many Poms are asking is the current actions of Tony Blair, in dumping MC, "too little too late"?