Frank,
Re the “popularity” of MC.
We all like partying -particularly if someone else is picking up the tab.To the public MC is usually portrayed as festivals & dance/bread & circuses.

What is not usually exposed/apparent is the inevitable social engineering which is a core component of MC. The idea that all cultures/religions are of equal merit (though in practice you usually have some ethnic cultures which are more favoured than others ) & seeks to ensure and equal outcome from unequal input.

Thus you have periodic surveys/studies run by ‘academics” or commissions which measures the relative performance of the different minorities & invariably finds one of the other is doing less well & invariable ascribes the less well performance to discrimination by the host/major culture ( never lack of input from the minority culture/group) And then seeks to prescribe various govt funded initiatives ( read positive discrimination/preferential treatment) to redress the situation.

In the same vein you will have the introduction of shaft of secular taboos/censorships which may outlaw certain words, jokes,cartoons ,books,films, opinions & previously traditional practices by the host culture in the name of removing discrimination & harassment . But once again these are usually selectively applied. ( What is notable & sad is how quickly, usually independent & intelligent people, unquestioningly - come to follow such edicts eg ‘porkies’).

The terrorists who bombed the London underground are true children of MC.Most of these young men had fair to good personal prospects.
But felt themselves to be more the appendage of some external group than British.They felt more kindredness for people who live thousands of kilometres away -whom they may never have met -than people living in the next housing estate whom they went to school with or worked next to, & whom they sought to kill.

Terrorism is a sickness but it is only a secondary infection. It rides on the back of, or follows the primary malady/infection which is MC.

Horus,

Now you're getting down to tin tacks, Mate. Multiculturalism is popular because people think it's just about partying! In their false consciousness, they fail to see the social engineering behind Multiculturalism. Stupid people! Let's take their vote away from them and keep it safely in the hands of sensible people like you and Banjo.

Let's abolish surveys and studies about multiculturalism and govenment funded initiatives - they're all dangerous and give people ideas. You already know what's good for people, without all that research crap. And wasting taxpayers' money when it could be better spent on useful things like sport (none of that wogball soccer, mind) and cheaper television (and we can do without the wog station).

Let's go back to the good old days when we were free to use any words, jokes, cartoons, books, films, opinions without being told they were offensive. If we want to discriminate against 'wogs' and 'refos' and 'abos', why not? That's the Ossie way and they'll soon learn to grow thick skin like the rest of us.

As you say, Multiculturalism breeds terrorists - the true children of MC. I just love it, Horus, when you talk dirty: "Terrorism is a sickness but it is only a secondary infection. It rides on the back of, or follows the primary malady/infection which is MC." That's soooo sexy!

I reckon we should draw up a list of targets - starting with everyone on OLO who supports the dreaded MC disease. If they refuse to accept their inoculations, they should be handed over to the true children of MC for the full treatment.

bennie,
From where did you get the idea that MC teaches immigrants English or helps them get qualifacations for jobs? MC is simply a philosophy that rates original culture ahead of national loyality.

It fosters seperate development of groups, with an aim of a fedreration of ethnic cultures, when what is needed is one community.

Have a look at some of the annual reports and see where the millions are spent.

I am quite surprized that you do not believe that if we dropped our laws and lowered our community standards, there would not be a dramitic rise in aspects of alien culture. Some of the unacceptable aspects I mentioned are carried out now,against the law.

There is at least on young girl per week, in NSW, suffering the truama of FGM. Do you realize what that does and its affects? Would that not increase if it was made lawful? Occasionally cockfights are reported and it is not unknown for dogs to be slaughtered for meat. Last year,SA passed laws prohibiting the human consumption of dog meat. Oh, and I did not even mention some of the worst cultural aspects of some people. What about slavery, incest and pedophillia. Do you think we should allow these cultural practices.

If you say "nope" they will not increase if we drop standards, then you don't know human nature very well. It is absolutly vital that we maintain the laws and community standards.

Why did I think that pedophilia was mainly perpetrated by True blue Aussie blokes with English sounding names, both here and in Asia? Why did I think that the women trafficked as sex slaves are mainly 'consumed' by Aussie blokes? If there wasn’t a ‘market’ for them it wouldn’t occur now would it?

And as for incest, rape, and wife bashing, my experience working for almost 30 years in Public hospitals has been that it is unfortunately very, very common in the ‘mainstream’ Australian community. Are they ‘mainstream’ Australian values in action? Or just Crimes?

Thanks Banjo for straightening out my errant thinking. It must be all those non-nationalistic, Aussie hating cultural types who have brought this evil here

ALL Australians are subject to the law. Issues like FGM and carrying guns openly (Somalia and USA) are often either controversial or against the law in those countries as well. They are against the law here. It is wishful thinking that 'cultural values' could be used as a defense in a violent crime. Except perhaps if you are an Aussie male forcing his wife to have sex by using 'rougher than usual handling.'

A year ago I spoke with a young Canadian man, he was shocked with the prevailing misogynist attitude amongst his Australian peers towards women in general at a University here. He was shocked to hear blokes even speak in a derogatory way about their girl-friends. He did not experience that with the Malaysian (Muslim and non) and Chinese students. He was here for 2 years. That to him was ‘typical Australian’. Is that an Australian cultural value? Or didn't he get the 'joke'?

Banjo

You ask Bennie: 'From where did you get the idea that MC teaches immigrants English or helps them get qualifacations [sic] for jobs?'

Multiculturalism is opposed to people being excluded by lack of English. That's why the Government funds English language programs for immigrants and refugees - adults and chilldren. For children, there are hundreds of programs within the school system many under the "English as a second language - new arrivals" scheme . (http://migrationexpert.com/content/living_in_australia_education.asp)

For adults, there are two Government-funded programs depending on the level of English. The Adult Migrant English Program (AMEP) which was established in 1948 is for recent arrivals in Australia, with a basic level of English. The Advanced English for Migrants Program is for permanent residents who are seeking employment in Australia and have above basic levels of English. (www.immi.gov.au/living-in-australia/help-with-english/learn-english/links1.htm#vic). So Bennie is right.

You allege: 'MC is simply a philosophy that rates original culture ahead of national loyality.' This is a fiction in your fevered imagination.

You tell Bennie: 'I am quite surprized that you do not believe that if we dropped our laws and lowered our community standards, there would not be a dramitic rise in aspects of alien culture. Some of the unacceptable aspects I mentioned are carried out now,against the law.' I note the small word 'IF' - no Government would ever be elected in Australia on that platform.

You acknowledge that the examples you gave of 'cultural practices' are all unlawful and occur infrequently. Your example of eating dogs sinks your already weak argument. You yourself tell us that SA passed laws prohibiting the human consumption of dog meat. That's what happens - unacceptable practices are banned when they come to attention.

No-one of any substance is advocating these practices. Yet you continue to throw up the fear that things could get crook IF governments legalised them. 'What about slavery, incest and pedophillia,' you ask rhetorically, 'Do you think we should allow these cultural practices.'

You invent a monster and call it Multiculturalism.

I'm not proposing we dilute our laws or make it any easier for those who have been brutalised overseas to practise barbarism here. One of the main, practical aims of MC is to teach our laws to those who aren't familiar with them. You could stop calling it multiculturalism and call it something else, if you like.

There will always be those who do stuff that amaze us 'normal' people. But not all of them are foreigners. Most are the same as you and me. Talk to one!