Charger

"So you’re telling us your imaginary friend loves someone who organised the death of 4000 plus people?

You might love your child when they do something wrong and forgive them and from that perspective I can see the point; but planning murder? Carrying it out? Wouldn’t you be a bit miffed (at the least)?

Did God love the people in the world trade center so much he let them die horribly? What kind of love is that? Where is God’s justice there? Where was God then? In the cockpit? You’d have to assume from the evidence that God was not blessing America on 9/11."

Maybe God was being ignored?

Do the people who proclaim "JESUS LOVES OSAMA" understand that he also loves John Howard and He loved Augusto Pinochet. (I'm not implying that the two are equivalent.)

Jesus also loves the two teenagers who raped, beat and strangled to death 73-year-old grandmother Marie Greening Zidan in Melbourne in October 2000.

See:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/19/1084917640356.html?from=storylhs

Jesus loves them even though they phoned Mrs. Zidan's daughter and left a taunting message on her voice mail.

Jesus loved the late Jeffrey Darma, the real live Hannibal Lecter who ate his many victims.

Jesus loves all those paedophile priests who ruined many lives. He also loves the bishops who covered up the paedophile-priests' misdeeds.

And Jesus loves George Bush.

Jesus loved Adolph Hitler and Joe Stalin.

Just thought I'd get this into perspective.

It is all about getting attention in an increasingly hedonistic world that ignores traditional religions,but it also plays right into the hands of Muslim Facism.

Unfortunately we are creatures that have advanced too quickly technologically and in genetic terms are unable to cope both emotionally an intellectually.This means we will be incapable of seeing our own shortcomings when our world becomes unstuck.

Ego,empathy,compassion has been both our friend and foe.Too many people,nuclear weapons everywhere,pollution,climate change will all come to a head in the near future.

Our collective consciousness and specialisation has brought us a temporary reprieve from our subsistance origins,but we as individuals do not have a grasp of the total mosaic that will determine our destinies.

We in Australia have lived our halcyon days in the post WW2 era.Those who went through the hardship of the depression and WW2 were willing to engage in real sacrifice for their children,I don't see any real evidence of this in many of our present generation.

I hope the future reality will make me a liar.

Here is a challenge to the airheads in the Baptist Church.

Publish this list of people Jesus loves or loved.

President Umar Hassan Ahmad al-Bashir, President of Sudan and chief perpetrator of the Darfur genocide. (See http://www.savedarfur.org/pages/multimedia)

Kim Jong-Il, North Korea's "Dear Leader." It is estimated that during the North Korean famine of the mid to late 90s some 4% of North Koreans starved to death. The famine was due entirely to Kim Jong-Il's insane rule.

Adolph Eichman and all the prison guards at Auschwitz

Pol Pot (Perhaps as many as a million Cambodians died because of Pol Pot)

Idi Amin

Sheikh Omar, leader of the Taleban regime in Afghanistan.

Maqbool Ahmed and Muhammad Aslam who beat their sister to death. It was an "honour killing." See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/pakistan/Story/0,,2007384,00.html

Robert Willie and Joseph Vaccaro. They raped 17-year-old Faith Hathaway, stabbed her 17 times and then raped her again after she had died. See http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/angel/reporternote.html

Frederick Albert Vonderwall who raped children under the age of 12. See http://www.crimenet.com.au/show_editorial.phtml?sid=c1eca40349df67f86fe1fd304079f318&id=795

Heinrich Himmler, head of the Nazi SS

The perpetrators of the Oradour-sur-Glane massacre. See http://www.oradour.info/ruined/summary.htm

Excerpt:

"Whilst these killings were taking place, the soldiers searched the town for any people who had evaded the initial roundup and killed them were they found them...A BABY WAS BAKED TO DEATH IN THE LOCAL BAKERY OVENS,..."

Lt. William Calley, one of the perpetrators of the My Lai massacre. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

Excerpt:

"Nevertheless, the American soldiers, one platoon which was led by Lt William Calley, killed hundreds of civilians — primarily old men, women, children and babies. Dozens were herded into a ditch and executed with automatic firearms. At one stage, Calley expressed his intent to throw hand grenades into a trench filled with villagers."

How do we get dragged so far away from the thread? It is always by some who want to push an opinion few would share.
The idea that Jesus loves this evil person is a concern.
Just maybe it again is time to ask how can we discard others Gods, so very many of them, and place so much trust in the one we invented?
The one I would invent if I felt the need would say all men of any color are equale and no one must kill or damage anyone in his/her name.
But my Gods preasts if that is what he/she wanted to call them would not live in a world of brotherly love that also is an invention a foolish not yet existing one.

coach,

"Accept Jesus and you are saved NOW and for Eternity –
Don’t and you will burn in hell with RObert."

Now coach you are making a direct threat against my well being. Thankfully a toothless threat as your imaginary friend is never going to carry it out.

On other threads you carry on about the Quran speaking harm to christains and here you are speaking harm to those who don't follow your own primitive death cult.

Now where is the difference?

R0bert