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Group plays politics of fantasy : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 31/1/2007

Hizb ut-Tahrir - they regard participation in democracy and secular government as against God's law.

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In a taped interview just before he commited both murder and killed himself a young Muslim spoke of the death of Muslims in Iraq.
We can only ask why he thought the gassing of people was done by anyone other than a Muslim.
His long list of hate included charges that could only be laid at the door of other Muslims.
And I have to ask why is it lies are so often used? why is it ok to lie?
And why is it the larger Muslim comunity is so often silent?
We are faced with a dreadfull short term future not just the west but the Muslim world unless those now silent find voice soon.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 1 February 2007 2:46:45 PM
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There isn't much I can do for people who blame an entire faith-community of 1.2 billion people for the actions of a few. I can only recommend they seek medical attention, because their words are as mad as the terrorists they allegedly condemn.

I refuse to blame all Christians for the actions of Christian priests who molest children or for Christian Church authorities who intimidate and pressure families of victims into silence.

I refuse to blame all Hindus for the actions of a small fraction of BJP fanatics or for the excesses of the Tamil Tigers.

As for the so-called refusal to condemn, I've rarely seen any of our armchair Muslim-haers condemning the Exclusive Brethren or CTF who teach their followers to hate other peopleor tear down their houses of worship. Nor have I seen them condemning American Christians who support and carry out the documented excesses of Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo etc.

Still, some people cannot be helped. They are determined to hate. Today they hate Muslims just as their forefathers hated Jews. And if their hatred persists, they should see a doctor.
Posted by Irfan, Thursday, 1 February 2007 3:56:04 PM
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word to that Irfan
Posted by Carl, Thursday, 1 February 2007 4:24:37 PM
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The trouble is Irfan,we do not know how few the lunatics are.What percentage are actually moderate and what percentage want to intergrate with Western Culture without destroying our democracies.
Islam and democracy are not compatible and that is why people like yourself want Sharia Law imposed in Australia.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 1 February 2007 10:30:40 PM
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Irfan

Islams war against the west has been going on for more than 30 years. To compare that with some wack-job born again Christian evangelist is hardly worthy. Those Christian's are never going to do anything and if they ever behave like the Islamic militants in Australia, Argentina, Britain, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, India, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Philippines, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Sweden, or the United States,( I left out the Islamic States and Islamic Africa and S.E. Asia) they will be dealt with in short order and will not have the umbrella of victimization adopted by the Islamic militants in the above mentioned countries.

"The intended hostage - said to be a young Muslim soldier in the British army who had served in Afghanistan - would have been filmed, made to plead for his life and ultimately executed".

One of the men arrested in the Alum Rock area was named locally as Amjad Mahmood, 29.
Local councillor Ansar Ali Khan said he had spoken to the father of the arrested man. Councillor Khan said: "He was in shock to know that his son had been arrested."
He described him as "a very hard working local businessman", adding: "He has served the community for 30 years and he is proud to be British. He can not imagine his son having any link to this sort of activity."

This is happening all over the world. Not just here or there. Not just once in a blue moon, but regularly, and there doesn't seem to be any let up. To suggest that any person speaking out or angered by this ought to look at Christianity is absurd.

I feel for you. You shouldn't need to feel that you must run to the defence of militant Islam. You should be able to say you are against such actions and such people with out feeling as a betrayer of your faith or being seen as an apologist. You mustn't take peoples fear of the continuation of these events as hate. It's just fear. The fear of not being able to trust your neighbour.
Posted by aqvarivs, Friday, 2 February 2007 8:37:04 AM
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Irfan, it wouldn't matter if there were a dozen crank "christian" religions, they may attract a few believers.......just as you state there are just a few Islamic fanatics.
But if there are "just a few " Islamic fanatics, they are doing dreadful things in this world and not just in one place.
The few cranks have no influence on the majority of Australians,we tend to regard them with some amusement.
Muslims pose a terrible threat because they are so single minded, do not integrate and believe that this is their world, not ours.And are determined to bring in Muslim laws .
There is no trust between us, too much harm has been done by both sides .Our ways differ too much for there to be peace .
Posted by mickijo, Friday, 2 February 2007 2:10:51 PM
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