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How does God exist? : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 9/11/2006

We are privy to God’s address to us but not to God Himself.

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Keiran,

QM does not refer to the expadning universe(s)and is not apart of the Big Bang and Solid State debate, as I presented it. It refers to wave reductions to create finite particles, regardless of the factors influencing the expansion of the universe.

More later on other points. Busy.
Posted by Oliver, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 5:32:28 PM
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God was before "nothing," and beyond human logic, which can't see "before nothing," can't see "God," can only see through eyes that began when humans began. We can only see what the structure of our mind allows us to see, what the structure of our eyes allows us to see, what the structure of our technology allows us to see.

According to Richard Feynman, physicists themselves are confused about existence, the subject matter of physics, how it operates, what it is.
I take that as meaning physics can't be used to disprove God's existence
Posted by Hawaiilawyer, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 7:55:53 PM
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Only one God, because there is only one. One creator, one true storyline for history, one beginning of the human race, one fall, one redeemer, one offer of redemption, one way to be redeemed (only one -- trust the one who created it all).

Leave it, and one leaves the only way, whether or not one believes it is of no consequence. The one way still exists. Try another and the truth will be known upon one's deathbed, or not known. It doesn't matter.

Scary? Not really, if the one who says this is the only way is trustworthy, wholly good and reliable.

It takes pure goodness, pure constructiveness, an absence of defect, to create, to be the creator.

What matters to God, because he is good (the meaning of "holy," or whole), is that all mankind -- every soul -- be saved from a terrible fate (his wrath at the end of time; also known as the judgment). Why? He loves mankind (I don't know why, frankly).

He knows there is a time when he must judge each life, and he will do it according to his rules (not ours which are biased in our own favor).

He is a god of wrath when his commandments which are intended to preserve the good, to preserve mankind, are violated. Which is why he says don't judge, but leave judgment to him. Judgment is inevitable.

He offers one way out. Jesus. Believe on him and you will be saved.
Believe that he is who he says he is.

Prophecy: Have soldiers cast lots for his coat.

Old Testament references: Psalm 22:l8 They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing.

New Testament fulfillment: John l9:23,24...This garment was seamless..."Let's not tear it," they said..."Let's decide by lot who will get it." Matthew 27:35; Mark 15:24; Luke 23:34.
Posted by Hawaiilawyer, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 8:42:09 PM
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If your quoting from religious writings you do not prove knowledge of God but, knowledge of religion. If you use science you prove knowledge of science. We do not know God through our senses but through our intuition. we fail in our attempt to discuss this direct knowledge because we manufacture reasons. We are using the tools we developed to understand our world and they can never contemplate Gods world.
Posted by aqvarivs, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 11:34:59 PM
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Keiran,
The antithesis of imperfection is an absolute. Our ‘perfect’ ideal, however, is an abstraction (i.e. it cannot be fully grasped) – nevertheless, most apprehend the perfect morality, even if not practice it. A parallel exists: The random movement and uncertainty generated at the sub-atomic level implies total chaos. Alter one part of Planck’s constant (an absolute) and the world, as we know it, could never have existed. Remove Planck’s constant and we have nothing (a true biblical void). One could suggest therefore, no-thing is predetermined but a ‘framework’ exists. Some ‘things’ are perhaps more likely than others in occurrence – QM, after all, is a construct based on probability. Perhaps our actions will ‘stack’ the odds – I believe so.

As you imply, we don’t (or can’t) operate in a vacuum (you suggest an ‘imperfect infinity’). But, you are prepared to believe anything (if you say all ‘truth’ is relative) or perhaps a vacuous nothing. Non-belief, as with relying on dear ol’ teddy, is perhaps a lot safer but quite unimaginative. I believe most, however, are far more inherently creative.
Posted by relda, Thursday, 23 November 2006 6:44:23 AM
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Fear Jesus!!
Dont sin by writing such nonsense:-)
He is coming to each and every country ..http://www.joshuaproject.net/
Posted by lochinvar2006, Friday, 24 November 2006 7:22:26 AM
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