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How does God exist? : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 9/11/2006

We are privy to God’s address to us but not to God Himself.

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The basis of your belief is a document (The Bible)written by many different people often after the supoosed event had occurred. We have no way of knowing all, some or none of the writings are authentic.

Make no mistake about it, I want to believe, what a wonderful world it is if there were a higher power or everlasting life etc.

Supposing it did exist, there are hunderds of religions, all with different beliefs and documents, so why would any rational person take a punt on one of them when you have the likely chance you will pick the wrong one and possibly follow false prophets/gods?

Your chances of picking the right one lies with luck and your culture, and that is IF it existed. So what is a person to do?

No wonder there are non believers in the midst, the world is a smaller place now and with information flows enabling choice and greater perspective, it is common sense that this would begin to happen. i think its great that if they dont believe but still want to go to church, it shows perhaps they value certain aspects of it that they find positive, away from the belief system.

So if god exists, who will God look at in a better light? Those who follow false idols/gods, or those who for fear of picking the wrong God abstain from following a specific religion/cultural teaching altogether? To you guys does every muslim, hindu, johovahs witness, mormon, buddhist etc go to hell?
Posted by Realist, Thursday, 9 November 2006 9:51:55 AM
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The gentlest dismissal of that melange of myths and scams known as religion was uttered about 200 years ago, in an alleged conversation between Pierre Simon Laplace and the Emperor Napoleon.

“Napoleon: You have written this huge book on the system of the world without once mentioning the author of the universe.
Laplace: Sire, I had no need of that hypothesis.
Later when told by Napoleon about the incident, Lagrange commented: Ah, but that is a fine hypothesis. It explains so many things.
Quoted in A De Morgan Budget of Paradoxes.”

http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Quotations/Laplace.html
Posted by anti-green, Thursday, 9 November 2006 10:14:59 AM
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I suggest their are many more greater minds (Newton being just one of thousands) than the author that are and have been strong believers who know that true science actually enhances their faith rather than diminsihes it. More and more scientist are now seeing the numerous flaws in the evolution theory. Anyone with an open mind will see that what they read in the bible is reflected in the world.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 9 November 2006 10:34:04 AM
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Another example of Sells dimwitted "religious" provincialism!
Especially in a day and age when we all have access to all the Sacred Scriptures of the enture Great Tradition of Humankind. And in a day and age of Quantum Reality, as signalled by Einsteins famous equation E=MC2, when everything is quite literally inter-connected and more importantly made of LIGHT.

Real God is not the maker of conditional nature.
Real God is the unconditional nature (or most prior condition) of conditional nature.
Real God is not merely the cause of all causes and all effects.
Real God is the source and the source-condition of all causes and effects.
Real God is not the objective source and source-condition of all causes and all effects.
Real God is is the perfectively subjective source and source-condition of all causes and all effects.
Real God is not ouside you.
Real God is not within you.
Real God IS You (Perfectly prior to your apparently objective conditional self, and perfectly prior to your apparently subjective conditional self, and, therefore, perfectly prior to your total, complex, and merely apparent conditional self).
Posted by Ho Hum, Thursday, 9 November 2006 10:36:33 AM
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I am just wondering does anybody know if the events a Fatima in 1916 were fact or fiction? Might be an example of God showing himself in the 20th century?

Well I believe in a god of sorts after all how is anything possible with out something that is godly in nature?
But then again I think by the 9/11/3006 humans will be almost godly in the way we perceive it today.
Posted by EasyTimes, Thursday, 9 November 2006 12:53:27 PM
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Does anyone think it strange that the 'originator' of what is called Christianity, Christ Jesus, in the days immediately prior to His ascension did not leave a structured church. He did not command His Disciples on how to observe what became to be called Christianity. Did not tell them how to ordain a ministry let alone give them the titles this ministry were to use, what days to observe, or how to observe them, what size candles to use and when to use them, how to make incense and the size and manufacture of the censors, the patterns of the frocks of the ministry or the colours of these pretty dresses :-),the shape and colours of their funny hats,mitres,caps,crowns etc, Christ Jesus left no, absolutely no church manuals or dogma at all. I should think that Christ Jesus knew that He would guide those He called Himself through His Spirit without the aid of a ministry, even one trained in a cemetery err seminary. God is and God is in total charge and absolute control of this world whether man agrees or not. Regards, numbat
Posted by numbat, Thursday, 9 November 2006 2:27:35 PM
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