FrankGol obviously did not venture very far from the tourist trail. There is in fact a de facto civil war waged by Muslims in France. For a reference:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/05/wmuslims05.xml

And there is severe underlying racial tensions in Britain, inflamed by a bombing last year by Islamic fanatics
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/2005/london_explosions/default.stm

These two examples show the dark and nasty result of anything goes style of immigration policies. These acts were carried out by children of immigrants, who have an obvious disconnection to the country they live in. No one needs multiculturalism so why should we want it?

"Under the rules of multiculturalism we have been forced to accept the unacceptable"

"take away foreign language services"

"The most effective way to undermine a society is through mass immigration. Multiculturalism is inherrently offensive to the host population"

"back in those days they knew absolutely NOTHING about the dangers of large numbers of culturally different racial groups sharing the same territory"

"some of the people immigrating might bring with them terrorist ambitions"

"Why should I support this immigration policy? What have I got to benefit from not being xenophobic?"

"Multiculturalism is a furphy. For about 40 years we have been duped by the politicians and the MC industry."



What a sad, sorry bunch. OLO sure seems to attract 'em.

Frank you dismiss hamlet's scenario out of hand. How unusual. Why not properly address it. if the culture of the Family involved accepts honour killing as is the case in some parts of the ME these days. Why has Multiculturalism nothing to do with it? Of course it has.

Likewise the tribal rampage after Cronulla and the years of intimidation on one side and years of tolerance that put up on the other... till it came to a head.

Did you celebrate 9/11 when it happened... well people in Melbourne and Lakemba and Bankstown did. I worked with some of them.

I know Italians who are racists and don't allow their daughters to marry outside the community.

I went out with a beautiful Lebanese girl, but she was so frightened in the end (and now I fully understand why) she had to move away.

Yes mutliculturalism and diversity are wonderful things... and pigs might fly.

Angelo’s ‘evidence’ that there is a “de facto civil war waged by Muslims in France” consists of a media article with the sensational headline “Muslims are waging civil war against us, claims police union”. Had he bothered to read beyond the headline, Angelo would have seen that the claim came only from a radical minority police union, Action Police, and was denied by the mainstream police union, the Police Alliance, and senior police all of whom characterised the violence as crime-gang-based and nothing to do with an ‘intifada’. Likewise the Interior Minister, a Centre-right candidate for the Presidency (who might be thought to have an interest in playing the race/religion card) said the violence was related to police action against drug smuggling gangs and other organised crime rings. These are criminal matters – nothing to do with multiculturalism or even immigration policies (not co-terminous concepts).

And Angelo’s ‘evidence’ of “severe underlying racial tensions in Britain, inflamed by a bombing last year by Islamic fanatics”? A BBC website focussing on the anniversary of the London bombings. But there is nothing there to support Angelo’s sensationalist claims. Indeed if you look closely you’ll find an excellent piece by John Simpson, the BBC world affairs editor, dated 31.8.2005. He writes, “Only three days after a savage series of bomb attacks in central London, half a million people turned out in the streets to applaud as the Queen, in an open car, led a parade of veterans down the Mall to Buckingham Palace.” Hardly the stuff of Angelo’s “dark and nasty result of anything goes style of immigration policies”.
Nor is this from the same writer: “The huge crowds who watched and joined in Sunday's parade were London's answer to all the fear and anger and excitability of the past few days; a Churchillian hand-signal to the bombers. Walking in the hot sunshine in the Mall with my family, I could see that the people round me felt much as I did: they were quietly celebrating their freedom. Not chanting or burning flags or screaming insults at enemies real or imagined, just enjoying themselves.”

FrankGol, have another read of my post:

I simply said that anything that allows people from a cultural group to insulate themselves from the values of the host culture in Australia is wrong.

Multiculturalism allows, even encourages, tribalism by privileging the rights of cultural groups over the rights of the individuals in that group.

How would that murderer, after even living for a short time in Australia, be able to maintain his barbarism unless he was effectively insulated from the views, values and opinions of the host culture, without multiculturalism telling him, and others in that group, that they have the right to maintain their 'heritage' in the face of the rest of society?

And what sort of imported cultures do we have here who are willing to reject Australian laws by sending witnesses overseas so that the killer of one of their own family may walk free? It is also telling other women in that community that if one father could get away with honour killing, then their own fathers could as well.

One last, but related, point: Australian law prohibits marriage under the age of 18 with a court's permission, and prohibits marriage under 16 absolutely, this prohibition includes the taking part in a religious marriage ceremony with no civil authority.

Why then is the Lebanese community, amongst others, permitted to marry off (in religious ceremonies that have to be ratified in civil ceremonies years later) 15 and 16 year old girls in the face of these laws? Or is this just something else we have to accept in the name of multiculturalism?

Mr Kahn,

PART I

For you to be offended by totally reasonable concerns is totally offensive, and betrays your racism to Anglos, a racism we are yet to articulate adequately, but in time we’ll all come to see how selfish are the concerns of those like you.

And when we do, which is utterly inevitable, multiculturalism will itself appear to be a racist philosophy.

We’ll see retrospectively the tacit white supremacist attitude of the left intelligentsia, in their assumptions that ethnic “minorities” are always in some sense an underdog by virtue of their not being Anglos, and in their assumption that these minorities are incapable of looking down upon Anglos. The barriers to fair criticism the far left (the middle-class left) have erected around our tribalistic newcomers will soon be seen as nothing more than racism itself (not to us but toward the minority!

To the tacit white supremacist of the far left, only a white man is in a position capable of looking downward. These nihilistic termites passionately turn a blind eye to the hard evidence of racist anti-Anglo gangs around Sydney and Melbourne, because it’s only the poor-white-skip-trash that get stabbed and bashed, murdered just for being white! They are not Marxists this middle-class left, they utterly despise the working class Anglo (e.g. Scott Poynting, UWS).

We’ll also retrospectively see the Anglophobia of many other’s, like Mr Kahn here, who can’t stop thinking of themselves as first and foremost members of some “ethnic” group, before they are individuals (as is perhaps most intense with practicing-racist Aboriginals). They are slaves to the superficiality of their traditions and have ethnicity on the brain!

How shameful it must feel, when you rudely remind the descenents of the very cultures who first institutionalised tolerance that they are inconsistent if they question multiculturalism, and then someone replies to you that there is nothing inconsistent in not tolerating the intolerant!

Mr Kahn’s comments are reflective of the typical “herd instinct” all racists have, where given the far left’s three-decades of nihilistic denigration of their own roots, they jump in with the boot.