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As I said before. Our laws take precedence over any religipous and cultural dictations. This Sach bloke should know the law and both him and the cabbies need to be told in no uncertain terms about that.
In fact Bracks should have already called the Discrimination Commissioner by now and a press release should be out tomorrow, am.

I am outraged by this and I have never heard of any other instance where the right of a guide dog to enter was even challenged, in any form of transport, restrauant or public building.

Perhaps we are partly to blame because we insist we are MC and say all cultures can be practised. This is another example of problems caused by multiculturalism,

Keep us posted on events will you as we do not get all news from "Mexico"

T800, you say I dismissed Hamlet's scenario out of hand. Not so. My post argued that Hamlet introduced a giant red herring. Murder is not part of multiculturalism and it is as absurd to suggest it stems from multiculturalism as it is to say it stems from democracy. Murder is the act of a criminal and should be dealt with according to our criminal code. I have never seen anyone argue that criminal behaviour should be accepted in Australia on the grounds that it is culturally relevant (or alleged to be) in another country. Setting up straw men to knock down is the weakest form of debate.

You ask me: “Did you celebrate 9/11 when it happened...people in Melbourne and Lakemba and Bankstown did. I worked with some of them.” My reply is that I did not celebrate 9/11; and I know and worked with Muslims and Christians and atheists who wept at those tragic events. Do people think ‘multiculturally’ when they celebrate tragedy and ‘monoculturally’ when they weep at it?

You say: “I know Italians who are racists and don't allow their daughters to marry outside the community.” To which I say, I know many Italo-Australians who are happy to leave that decision to their daughters and sons. And I know some Anglo-Australians who have not been happy to let their sons and daughters marry outside their communities. Should you and I be calling them ‘racists’?

I am sad that your love life did not have a happy ending because your “beautiful Lebanese girl…was so frightened in the end…she had to move away”. My friend’s beautiful Lebanese girl and her parents were more tolerant…or discerning.

I have a very simple and short question.

I am a white 6th generation Australian what are the benefit's of multiculturalism for me

let's see... Steve madden... your lack of knowledge re ON is astounding. I believe Hanson and Ettridge were gaoled in Qld in reference to the so-called "false" membership you trumpeted about. Well Steve, guess what? they were found not guilty and all charges were quashed... the memberships were found to indeed be valid. I believe however the party still has not has it $500,000 returned by the electoral commission.

Frank... gee if I was to mention japanese and eskimos I bet you'd know some of them too. Do you think that perhaps i know more of them than you? shall we compare? I know a whole Italian community where I used to live I was engaged to an Italian till her racist parents decided to kidnap her and get her married off overseas... now let's not start by impuning my good nature again eh Frank, that's just bveing a poor sport. Vilifying others seems to be a trait of the regressive Left.

You still failed to adress Hamlet's scenario... and you still dismiss out of hand others who dissent from your obviously superiour pov. Well Frank having lived at the coa;-face of Multiculti I can tell you it aint working. Having actually studied it I can tell you it was unwanted and un-needed.... and I'm just counting migrants there. So what are the benefits Fwank?

Frankgol wrote:

T800, you say I dismissed Hamlet's scenario out of hand. Not so. My post argued that Hamlet introduced a giant red herring. Murder is not part of multiculturalism and it is as absurd to suggest it stems from multiculturalism as it is to say it stems from democracy. Murder is the act of a criminal and should be dealt with according to our criminal code. I have never seen anyone argue that criminal behaviour should be accepted in Australia on the grounds that it is culturally relevant (or alleged to be) in another country. Setting up straw men to knock down is the weakest form of debate.

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Once again you have avoided the central point! Multiculturalism enabled this guy, in his own mind, to decide what he was doing was right, according to this culture. Of course it was murder, and of course it should have been dealt with by law: however, due to multiculturalism those around this barbarian had not absorbed enough culture to recognise that he should not have been protected in the way that he was.

Multiculturalism is no excuse for murder, but it is a factor when it insulates and isolates members of cultural groups from absorbing and accepting Australian values and Australian laws.

I never said that multiculturalism is an excuse for crime, I said that it removed the incentive for members of cultural groups to realise that they live in a democratic, secular, liberal, western society and that as long as they live here they have to accept this societies values and laws, right down into the deepest parts of their beings. They cannot just be in this society, they essentially have to be of this society, because these are the values of the culture.

Culture is not just food, language and festivals, it is about a total world view of what 'the good life' is. In the host society freedom, as we express it, of the individual, is the basis of the good life. In other cultures this is not the case, and therefore conflict is inevitable, as will casualties.

I do not have an answer Easy times to your simple question: but if you dont know now you never will; get out a little more often perhaps that will help
And I have a question for you! What is the relevance of being a 6th Generation Australian?