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Integration or disintegration: a test for immigrants : Comments

By Bill Muehlenberg, published 22/9/2006

Simple demands: they should have lived here for four years; they should know a bit about Australian history and values; and they should be able to speak English.

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tao,

To me and all Australians who care for this country and those who understand the islamic mentality of denial, cry-victim, and deceit, we can read through the lines even when these young men and women lie through their teeth to promote Islam by sugar coating it...

here's part of the actual transcript - can you care to tell us which part was out uf context?

JENNY BROCKIE: But you haven't answered my question. My question to you is about those core values that have been espoused. Now, democracy, secularism, do you believe in those things?

WASSIM DOUREIHI: Muslims do hold a unique set of values which will definitely, and I'll say very unequivocally, which will go against notions of secularism and democracy because Islam puts the role of the creator as the pillar for both the personal and the political.

But that is a belief. no-one is suggesting that the Muslims in this country are engaged in subversive activity to alter the political reality in this country.

We exist, we're under one set of laws and no-one is suggesting we are trying to implement sharia on this country. It's the exact opposite that is occurring
Posted by coach, Saturday, 23 September 2006 5:03:14 PM
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Tao,
I didn’t watch the program but I have read enough Islamic theology to know that what Mickijo is highlighting is not an isolated phenomena .It would even be argued by some of the Ulama that unless you had such view you are not a real or good Muslim.

The problem with you Tao is you are suffering from post-Vietnam leftist syndrome and not able see past the good underdog v's bad western oppressor senario/plot

P.S. Tao when the Taliban & their kind took control in Afghanistan, one of the first things they did was massacre thousands of leftists & their sympathizers-watch your back!
Posted by Horus, Saturday, 23 September 2006 5:07:32 PM
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"post-Vietnam leftist syndrome"

Etiology:
Lying Governments, xenophopia, racist tendancies, more lies, conscription, oil, shame, embarrassment, more lies, conservative (not liberal) government, illness, been there done that.

Horus, learn some history - you may be called un-australian.
Posted by Steve Madden, Saturday, 23 September 2006 5:50:47 PM
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What about English migrants, some of them need to learn how to speak the mother tongue, the best English is spoken in Edinbourgh and Dublin, over one hundred years ago the Australian government tried to put those kind of laws through Parliment to keep out Chinese migrants, it was found that Afgans could speak very good English so the laws were not approved, there are millions of Indians who would want to come here so they will be allowed to come, laws based on racial descrimination, "British speaking only" can be pigeon/holed with"anglo celts only"
those kind of laws were not passed in 1904 so why try to pass them now,
Posted by athair_siochain, Saturday, 23 September 2006 7:41:10 PM
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ALAMO,
Cheers!
Posted by David Latimer, Saturday, 23 September 2006 10:14:28 PM
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I wonder if support for: forcing through IR laws that 70% of the population feels are unjust, would be one of John Howard's Austalian Values?

If I were to emigrate I would consider it encumbent upon me to learn the language of my new country but I dont think that has anything to do with 'terrorism' which is what all this xenophobia is based on. If I was a terrorist seeking to destabilise a country I would definitely learn their language.
Posted by Rob513264, Saturday, 23 September 2006 11:05:59 PM
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