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‘Dissing’ men: the new gender war : Comments

By Jim Macnamara, published 15/9/2006

The negative portrayal of men in contemporary societies is not only a matter of concern for men, but also for women.

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Jim

Thank you for your interesting and thought provoking article.

I am surprised that you have not acknowledged the PHd author. I find that rather strange. Me thinks he might be Micheal Woods of UWS Hawkesbury Campus. Having been a lecturer at UWS, it is my experience that research coming out of Hawkesbury Campus is often"dodgy" - especially arising out of nursing and/or community studies and the like.

Even so, I hold my hat up to male people in or society - as I do to females in our society. But I did survive studies of radical feminism back in 1985. I enjoy my traditional values. I see that old Germie Greer is her usual horrible dikey self regarding the sad death of Mr Steve Irwin. Getting your last minutes of fame Germ?

I hate it when women verbally bash men under the umprella of feminism - equal rights and stuff.

Throughout my clinical and academic nursing careers, most of my bosses have been women. They have ALL been bullies!! My male bosses have been outstanding.

Go men go!!

Cheers
Kay

And before the radical feminists have a go at me for not having a balanced view: I was a victim of alcoholic male bashing for 13 years - then some six years after that, I was dragged off the street -bashed, raped, and robbed by two men. I am now about to celebrate 10 years of happy marriage - total contenment!
Posted by kalweb, Saturday, 16 September 2006 9:13:26 PM
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"Could it be because controlling sex is a woman’s primary tool in gaining compliance from men. David Koch recently said quite openly that if he doesn’t do what his wife wants he doesn’t get sex and so he is forced to do his wife’s bidding."

Quite frankly, if men are hen pecked like that, its only they
who can help themselves. Get a mistress or a new wife!
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 16 September 2006 9:36:15 PM
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Esther Vilar author of "the Manipulated Man." writes;

"Men have been trained and conditioned by women, not unlike the way Pavlov conditioned his dogs, into becoming their slaves. As compensation for their labours men are given periodic use of a woman's vagina."

"If praise is applied in the correct dosage a woman will never need to scold. Any man who is accustomed to a regular and conditional dosage of praise will interpret its absence as displeasure."

Daphne Patai in Heterophobia writes;

“Men are currently in a situation ‘set up’ for failure. The burden of making virtually all explicit, unambiguous first moves (first time kissing, asking for a date, initiating first-time sexuality, and so on) is on men. This makes males a target if they initiate in a way that a particular woman finds offensive (since a particular woman gets to decide what is or isn’t offensive). Until women start taking responsibility for making unambiguous, risky first initiatives, they should lighten up when men do a clumsy, or offensive job of it.”

Is it men who exploit women or women who exploit men?

I know what my answer is.
Posted by JamesH, Saturday, 16 September 2006 11:39:16 PM
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While I am inclined to agreee with the main point Macnamara's article, it lost a lot of credibility for me because of the way he cited the research data:
"The research found that, by volume, 69 per cent of mass media reporting and commentary on men was unfavourable compared with just 12 per cent favourable and 19 per cent neutral or balanced."

These numbers, in themselves, do not support Macnamara's position that "the main target of discrimination is no longer women". Perhaps the news media portray everyone this negatively, both men and women. Since it is the nature of these media to focus on crime and violence ("If it bleeds, it leads") we could expect primarily negative portrayals of both sexes.

As far as the article's main point is concerned, these numbers are only significant in relation to the comparable figures regarding women. However, Macnamara does not present this data. This is at best sloppy and at worst intellectually dishonest.

Jayne
Posted by Jayne, Sunday, 17 September 2006 2:36:21 AM
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I see Jim has written this based on someone else's research. Way to go Jim, you've discovered what is really going on in Western society.

There is indeed a plot to denigrate men, they are the major target of ..... WHO? Who is leading this supposed avalanche of denigration? It's the CWA of course, that devious organisation created to hide all those nasty women who hate men with a passion.

Come on Jim, try looking at the media before you summarise it's intent. Haven't you noticed the real intent of the media, particularly the US media. It's attacking the Brady Bunch, those paragons of human behaviour.

Women denigrating men. My God how nasty. Thank heavens none of the same is directed at women, anywhere.

Dear Jim. Please read the Bible for a start. There has been a battle between men and women since they were created. The media are simply late bloomers in comparison with what the world population does and has done forever.
Posted by RobbyH, Sunday, 17 September 2006 8:44:09 AM
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Excellent article. I have seen this for some years now. Even in (or particulalry in) advertisments, men are portrayed as bumbling idiots while women so all knowing and clever. Stereotypes are always sickening but the pendulum has long shifted to portray men in the negative at every opportunity.

Pkay
Posted by QKAY, Sunday, 17 September 2006 8:52:12 AM
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