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The high priests and priestesses of multiculturalism should not be surprised by this. It is after all a product—admittedly, an extreme one—of policies they have been espousing with such religious zeal for thirty years or more.

This reality of separateness, however, does not stop at the marriage line. While individual ethnic communities throughout our postwar history have always tended to cluster together at first, gradually they have dispersed. My very nice next-door neighbours are Chinese, as are two other families down the street who, together with an Assyrian family, make up our own little example of that “diversity” of which our politicians so blandly prate.
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Alex Alexiev, of the Center for Security Policy in Washington, interviewed by Alan Jones on 2GB in June last year, reported the extensive Islamisation of schools in Muslim ghettoes in France. As he says on his website:

“Having by and large completed their takeover of the Muslim ghettoes, often by “targeted violence” against non-Muslims and moderate Muslims alike, and turned them into “anti-societies”, the Islamist fanatics are making great progress towards achieving control of the educational system as well. As usual, girls are the first victims … The punishment for refusal to conform is often physical violence ...
“This new generation of Muslim children, born and raised in Europe, is growing up already indoctrinated to consider themselves part of a ‘Muslim nation’ separate and opposed to everything Western civilisation stands for.”

Are we so stupid, or so lazy, or so frightened of being criticised for political incorrectness, that we are unable to recognise such developments?—and more importantly, to demand policies to stymie them?

read the rest here:
http://www.quadrant.org.au/php/article_view.php?article_id=2207

"The following Muslim Organisations collectively denounce the statements made by Sheikh Feiz about rape.

A number of Muslim organisations have responded by saying it is inappropriate and incorrect to suggest that if a woman does not dress appropriately then she is in some way responsible for what happens to her.

The responsibility for an evil act such as rape lies solely at the feet of the person who commits it. There is never an excuse for rape.

These organisations point out that Islam is a faith that encourages self restraint and discipline, and it specifically encourages both men and women to avert their gazes as part of this approach to modesty. It encourages each Muslim to avoid sin regardless of the temptation. Rape, being one of the most heinous of sins, can never be justified on the grounds of dress. The press release appears in full below."
http://forums.muslimvillage.net/index.php?showtopic=1244

Obozo, I don’t doubt that some men with very unreconstructed attitudes about the culpability of female victims in rape cases are Muslim. Such attitudes were very common in Australia in recent decades, and you still hear them from time to time.

However, my Wikipedia check of the “Copenhagen Post” tells me this is a giveaway paper with a weekly circulation of 15 000 founded in 1997. I have no information as to the editorial credentials of its publishers.

Many of the objectionable attitudes set out in the comments following that report have been commonly expressed in courtrooms and other forums by non muslims in this and other Western countries over the past few decades.

Problem is, these days you can get any collection of nutcase rants and pass it off as representing the mainstream of a religion or ideology.

Relda, what the hell is that link you provided? It appears to be one particular Jew's anti-Zionist rant (although not the worst I've seen), published on a Muslim website. Did you mean to direct us to

http://www.islamdenouncesantisemitism.com/

Muslims denouncing antisemetism is, I think, a good thing, but this site's attributing antisemitic racism to Darwinism is just plain dumb.

Zionism as an ideology deserves intelligent criticism and analysis, and some of its most credible critics have been Jews.

But what has this got to do with the current discussion?

Mercurius,

You failed to address DB's challenge. Your ignorance of religious matter is your (and all other ignoramus) downfall.

Islam is NOT a race or a particular people. Islam is a political movement fuelled by a (false) religion.

Islam's only way of integration is to change the host country NOT themselves.

Muslems may be born here and fluent in English etc.. but that does not alter the fact that their religion is inflexible, unchamgeable, and intolerent of our societal "secularist" attitudes.

Muslems use violence, cultural dress, rape, vulgarity, etc... to move (scare) non-muslems out of their ghettoes. Many suburbs in Capital cities are already a no go zone for outsiders.
Try to drive a car in the streets of Sydney's Lakemba on a Friday Islamic public day. (Now that' a Challenge) - the streets are wall to wall illigaly blocked bodies praying to their god.

Once a Mosque is built - this is a sign of territorial conquest - land aquired for Allah. A Mosque will never be demolished, sold, or used for any other purpose (like Church buildings) than for land claim and a mark of victory for Allah.

Not to realise the reality of Islam is to hand over Australia inch by inch to this politico-religious invasion.

Don't trust the propaganda and PR lies offered by their educated representatives either. It all part of the game. Waste time in dialogue and rhetorics while their women are breeding new muslems at alarming high velocity.

Islam is a supramist religion that is to abolish all other beliefs by any means - peaceful or violent.

All islamic countries were once Multifaith if not predominantly Christian, Bhuddist, Jewish, etc... (Iraq, Egypt, Turkey, to name a few). Europe's Islamisation is at a point of no return...

Wait until the muslem population reaches critical mass - then it will be just a push of a pen to declare this country "Australia" Islamic.

Again I ask anyone to prove me wrong.

Coach, your hypothesis is unfalsifiable. It can't be proved wrong by anybody, only by time. But that doesn't mean you're right.

Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim population, is multifaith. There are Christians and Hindus all over the place. I lived there for 3 years, so I know what I'm talking about.

Same goes for Malaysia. Walk down the streets of Penang or Malacca. You'll find a mosque, a synagogue, a church, a Hindu shrine, a Buddhist temple and a Daoist temple all within 3 blocks of one another. The newspapers are full of letters debating what their immigration and racial policies should be. And the tone of those letters is respectful and polite. It's a far more successfully integrated and balanced multiculture than we self-declared (just ask us) "tolerant" Australians have managed to produce.

I go to uni with a lot of Muslim girls. They grew up here. They have the same self-confident swaggering body-language of the typical Australian teenager. They sound like rool Aussies (think Kylie Moll) when they talk. They go to parties. They listen to bands. They swear (although they think I can't hear them do it). They never turn their bloody mobile phones off in class.

Who's changed who?

They make heartbreakingly naive statements in class like "because Australia's a multicultural society, we don't have the problems like in the Middle East." They're too young to understand that there are haters like you lurking out there, ready to pronounce them a threat to the very society they grew up in.

So Coach, while you're busy hating and fearing, they, and their Anglo and Asian and Indian and Vietnamese and Brazilian and Japanese friends and I will be hanging out together, working together, talking together and making the Australia of the future.

It's already begun.