Coach,

Please read Alchemist posting above.

Alchemist,

Good comment.

Now this is only a rumour, but I heard that the Pope posts on OLO.

He uses the moniker "Coach".

You heard it here first.

;0)

Fellow_Human,

Are you so desperate now that you must rely on Alchemist - of all posters - for protection?

How about answering my challenge above?

As a muslem you should be able to provide some evidence for your religion - don't you?

Hypothetically speaking - If you had to register Islam as a new religion today in Australia - What concrete evidence would you supply? how could you dissociate yourself from active muslem terrorists - or are they a different breed?

The fact that you worship a god and a man-prophet and a holy book don't necessarely make you a religion.

Jesus Christ was the last messenger from the real God - He fulfilled the law and all the Biblical prophets.

Jesus' dying words on the cross : " It if finished "

God's work for humanity is DONE.

So where does your religion fit in? And why return to the Mosaic laws when salvation is no longer judged by the law? jesus took away our judgement. He is now The Way and The Truth.

Me thinks Islam is unrelated to Christianity - because the Christian God does not lie, or change His mind. (one example: Jesus' crucifiction - Islam says: it never happened!)

Apart for the words of your self-proclaimed prophet - do you have any other back-up proof?

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Very cute Scout - maybe now you could help FH in his research and make yourself useful for Islam.

Fellow_Human, Irfan, Nayeefa, Flu, Tao

The reaction to Pope's comments:

Iraqi jihadists issued a video showing a scimitar slicing a cross in two, intercut with images of Benedict and the burning Twin Towers.

The website run in the name of the Mujahedeen Army, used by extremist groups who have claimed responsibility for attacks in Iraq, was addressed to "You dog of Rome" and threatened to 'shake your thrones and break your crosses in your home.'

In a reference to suicide bombing, it said: "We swear to God to send you people who adore death as much as you adore life."

Sister Leonella Sgorbati, 66, was shot four times as she walked from the children's hospital where she worked to her house in Mogadishu

Early in the day in Iran, powerful cleric Ahmad Khatami told theological students in the holy city of Qom that if there was no apology, 'Muslims' outcry will continue until he fully regrets his remarks.

'The Pope should fall on his knees in front of a senior Muslim cleric and try to understand Islam.'

In London demonstrators outside the Roman Catholic Westminster Cathedral carried placards saying 'May Allah Curse the Pope' and 'Trinity of Evil: Christian Crusade Against Islam'.

The demonstrators also carried signs that aimed at offending the religious sentiments of Christians by suggesting that 'Jesus will raise the sword of Islam' and 'Jesus is the slave of Allah'.

I love Islam. It is indeed a Religion of Peace. How can I convert to Islam?

Coach,

Accepting each other and co-existence means that I accept you and your rights even if your faith does not make sense to me. I explained that in plain English and yet you seem to struggle with it.
Crucifix is a religious content that you believe in. It doesn’t make sense to me and many other religions (including the Judeo part of the “Judeo-Christian” term). Yet I accept and will defend your right to practise it and don’t judge. Get it?
So far you are unable to reciprocate.

BTW, your ‘applied ignorance’ of Islam is amazing, Muslims don’t worship Mohamed. The Qu’ran refers to him as ‘just a prophet’. If you are into theology you need to read some more.

Hi Scout,

By the way I believe the pope comments were taken out of context to create a media bubble. Although one would think that feeding half a billion starving Catholics in Latin American should be more important than talking about us.

Coach, are you sure you are not him? His holiness? :):)
Last joke before Ramadan:)

Have a peaceful day,

Nayeefa and Coach, ...... why do some people decide to embrace totalistic "belief systems" which ironically take away their freedom to choose? i.e. It's hard for me to understand how a modern women could embrace such a misogynistic nightmare. Apparently for some, this abdication is preferable to a true and deep confrontation with their existential pain, uncertainty, and fear of death. However, just observe, open your eyes and see that men who rely on an ancient book to justify their insecurity and codify their domination of women are villainous and incapable of understanding women on equal terms. Women who value themselves enough should stay away from these women-hating supstitious mind viruses because they all share this view of truth as revealed, rather than observed or discovered. This approach to belief is quite simply the basis of all religious pathology.

On this matter of belief, when we hear someone say "believe in the power of faith", are they not saying believe in belief? LOL Never is the connection between thought and action considered because where is the need reinforced with an effective assessment of the situation, strategy, and the appropriate action to be taken? If the subconscious message is one of "simply believe, and it will be so." then this is nothing more than a cultural codification of ancient magical thinking, a solipsistic dream, a drug, a mind virus and its implied corollary is "don't think negative thoughts, you might cause bad things to happen".

Because for many people, our brains seem to treat beliefs we consider to be true, almost exactly the same as facts, we need to learn to distinguish the two.... and it is that simple. Just state the role of bringing your mind and perception as close as possible to apprehension of the physical reality we all inhabit ... i.e. the world that IS. When it comes to the nature of reality, if we want truth, we absolutely must not preconceive but just open our eyes and OBSERVE ........ because understanding and accepting that all causes and phenomena are natural is really not so far-fetched.