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The 'Israeli take' : Comments

By Colin Andersen, published 28/7/2006

To get a more nuanced understanding of events in the Middle East, one has to turn to the Internet.

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2 bob

you are a bigot.
Posted by keith, Monday, 31 July 2006 1:09:10 PM
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Boaz you are a trifle confused I think - the people arrested in Melbourne have not been charged with wanting to kill our PM and his family, that was Canada for pete's sake. Why would anyone bother to assassinate anyone as boring and mindless as John Howard.

It is said by Israel that the civilians they are murdering are really being murdered by the Hezbollah but fail to tell us just how this is, where is the evidence of those weapons in the houses or explain just why the Lebanese men would endanger their own children in that way. We heard the same about the evil and inhuman Iraqis and have sat by while we murdered over 100,000 of them.

We heard about tunnels in Iraq like in Lebanon - they didn't exist. The red cross and journalists who arrived in Qana found no evidence of any weapons.

2 bob, you are beyond belief that you write such vile filth. I believe if a muslim wrote what you do they would be charge by Ruddock with incitement to violence yet you get away with it. Why is that do you think except for the entrenched racism of John Howard.

The babies who could not leave Qana were not being used as shields by their parents - the parents were just too poor to leave and this atrocity by the Israeli's is monstrous.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Monday, 31 July 2006 1:27:40 PM
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Marilyn,

The current ceasefire is supported by Israel in order to get to the bottom of what exactly happened in Khafr Kana / Qana. It is known that the Israeli strike at midnight did not cause major structural damage, but what is unknown is what caused the explosion & collapse of the structure at ~7am.

As Hizbollah and the Lebanese Government have stated that only civilians were in the structure, and that no weapons/explosives were in there either, this secondary explosion must have been caused by a second attack on the structure, whether by Israel or by Hezbollah.

I suggest only that this lull in the fighting be used to fully investigate what actually caused the second explosion, the consequent collapse of the structure and the deaths of the civilians, preferably by a non-aligned party (I suggest Finland, Germany or Canada).

As no explosives were in the building, if the explosion was caused by explosives on the ground, they must have been taken there for a purpose.

If it is established that this is the case, where does that put Hizbollah, Lebanon & Syria? Perhaps they should not have sought to manufacture a cause celebre, because it seriously looks like backfiring, destroying for all time the credibility of these terrorists.

Yala ya Nasrallah yidfok ochah inshallah

There are more than two ways to skin skunks

Inshallah

2bob
Posted by 2bob, Monday, 31 July 2006 2:18:30 PM
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Marilyn,

IR footage of Hezbollah firing rockets from the target area of Qana can be found on the CNN site http://edition.cnn.com/

Hezbollah knows only too well that once you start firing from a position it becomes a legitimate target. Israel struck at what was shooting. A number of hours later, a secondary explosion brought down the building.

Reports of Hezbollah rockets firing upon towns in South Lebanon are increasing, and the mortar attack on the aid convoy on the weekend is now believed to have been Hezbollah sourced.

In the propaganda war, there is no doubt that Hezbollah are winning, with the help of western journalist eager for any story. Hence the cameras at Qana before any bodies were removed. At a recent mass funeral, there were more journalists invited by Hezbollah than dead. On Jim Lehr Newshour (SBS - 30/7) vision of an Israeli hospital coming under direct and deliberate rocket fire was shown. It's a pity that Australian Journalist don't report such attrocities.
Posted by Narcissist, Monday, 31 July 2006 2:26:28 PM
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Boaz, Narcissist and 2bob

some very good historical context, stretching back to the dark ages of May this year.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2928
Posted by Carl, Monday, 31 July 2006 3:09:22 PM
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Colin Anderson notes: "Australia/Israel & Jewish Affairs Council (AIJAC), told them that Tehran was pulling the strings of Hezbollah, who were visiting “another 9-11” on Israel."

Rubbish. AIJAC are the propaganda arm of terrorist organsition, Israel military.

Another 9/1? Yes. A bunch of warmongers acting outside the tenants of Islam; just like Israel is a bunch of thugs acting outside the tenants of human decency.

Bush used 9/11 to give “legitimacy” to USA establishing a de-stabilising military presence in the Middle East.

Israel is doing likewise with Lebanon. Hezbollah's takes two soldiers prisoner and Israel unleashes a murderous retaliation that makes a mockery of even the barbaric "the eye for and eye" - not to mention Ch. 22, 38,39,40. Certain Christians ignore or rationalise away the Bible.

The suicide bomber is a recent phenomenon in Islamic history. Just like jet pilots using planes to kill civilians. This suggests that some Muslims believe to the extreme that they are against hopeless odds. That Islam is doomed.

Warmongering propaganda from factions within Islam that don't represent Islam and irresponsible actions like Israel's terrorist attack on Lebanon only exacerbate these feelings of hopelessness and fear.

The media have not made big of the reports that the 9/11 hijackers drank alcohol, forbidden in Islam, before boarding the doomed planes. Some are known to have frequented nightclubs which is unlike normal orthodox Islamic behaviour.

For Islamic fundamentalists night clubs are a symbol of jahilyyah which is the true faith’s enemy. Moreover, the Quran condemns all aggressive warfare and teaches that the only just war is a war of self defence.

Islamic law forbids Muslims to declare war against a country that allows them to practice their religion freely and strongly forbids them to kill innocent civilians. In other words Hezbollah are either thugs like the 9/11 mob or must feel genuinely aggrieved to the extreme.

9/11 was a flagrant and wicked abuse of religion. Bushes response was an opportunistic and unChristian sellout. Israel’s behaviour towards Lebanon is obscene. And Lebanon civilians are “flesh and blood" just like the folk in the two towers.
Posted by rancitas, Monday, 31 July 2006 5:08:43 PM
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