Celivia Ozgirl Robert.

Not going anywhere , learnt ages ago not to try reasoning with sinners.[grin]

Celivia YES we should start a post about the lack of reasonsibilty of the Church regarding Gods creatures.

If you wouldnt mind perhaps you could start it off. Would you mind?

please. pretty please / I am not much good with this OLO.

Yo! note his WIFE looked after the kids.

Get that?

Celivia[wouldnt have a clue] ummmm.

I still own State Sercurity and Investigations.

Worked this type of stuff gathering evidence for enquiries.

Think we have a live one.

Those places he claims dont abuse kids are the biggest offenders.

Men work their way to being respected in the Church and swap kids to ones they KNOW they can trust.

The wives never know.

Ring Any bells.?

Note the support for Roberts book!

Preaching to others is a sympton.

No cure

I knew a guy who I swear was the best looking smartest bloke you laid eyes on.

I started getting uncomfortable when he refered to the bible all the time.

He looked after kids sent to him by the Church.

He was charged finally but he still does not see he did much wrong.

They delude themselves. .[ Cast no stones]
Just chuck a few in the right direction]

Dont do that type of work anymore[lucky for some]

I am happy to keep in contact with all of you via my email address and perhaps we could help Roberts book.

Ozgirl has great protential and Celivia should be hosting her own OLO.

I feel guilty posting here because I dont have any more to say about this pill.

No, not Philo, but the pill the writer posted about.

Yo! Philo next time I share a Bundy with the Lord out in the field when he is helping me save his creatures I will ask him if we can pray for you.

When women want help with birth control they go to A Doctor.

We will introduce a bill to stop people calling women murders for a drug thats legal.

End of Story.

Wendy perhaps you could begin to look at living creatures smaller than a grain of rice as being equally the Creation of God. The beginnings of human life for instance. The Earth has more volume of living creatures smaller than a grain of rice than it has of sheep, goats, bovine, horses, elephants, fish, whales etc, many of these are also endangered because of human ignorance and chemical pollution. Of course you prefer to pour toxic substances into the feotus of humans to eradicate them.

You have demonstrated your emotive hostility toward parenting and men, which identifies you as socially unbalanced. May you never have the responsibility to care for children until you can heal your own social paranoia.

News from the U.S.

If you haven't heard, finally, yesterday, the "morning after pill" was approved for over-the-counter sales to those 18 or older. Younger people have to have a Rx, but women's advocates are still working on correcting this flaw.

Robert

Once again Philo PRESUMES to judge others.

He completely misses the point that Wendy cares passionately about ALL life forms;

he misquotes Celivia to distort her message to the humble readers of OLO;

he denys women control over their own fertility;

he claims moral superiority because of his religious beliefs;

he misses the point that we all contribute to the health and well being of those around us;

and he forgets his bible when he casts stones.

Philo, please treat others with respect, you may not share their views but they have as much right to express them as you.

Robert and Scout.

Robert that is good news.

Scout I admire your effort but theres nobody home.

You can talk to him until the cows come home.

Lets examine your thinking shall we.?

You I will be cursed by not raising children.

Praise the Lord.

Thats the point not every body wants to.

In regards to seeds of life if I could get my hands on enough drugs to stop these poor creatures being born to suffer I would.

By George I think your starting to get it.

It is! The churches fault Philo. They are MEANT to be an example.

I love people especially the ones in need.

I wish them dignity and understanding and love to teach their WANTED children the same part of that is compashion to fellow creatures.

Children deserve to be wanted planned, loved.

Not here because you said so.

You think you are superior to women and Animals.

Ask yourself Can you Fly? Can you give birth? Can you talk unde water? [ Probably]

We all have something different to give.

Although In your case I must say I am having difficulty finding a good use.

But Wait! I have found it.

Had you not have come along and annoyed me several people probably would not have stopped to about the fact it iS THE RESPONSIBILTY OF THE CHURCH.[So I thank you]


Clearly YOU dont think Churches are reasonsibly as you have made no comment.

What is my Crime?

If the good Lord called upon me to help his beloved creatures who are you to argue with him.?

Each Person has a destiny in life.

Mine is to help Gods other Creatures.

With Gods help I will make a difference for him and them.

To serve God is the greatest gift of all.

He just doesnt want every women to do the same thing Philo.

Please pray for the suffering animals Philo in Gods name and help us in asking the Churches to stand up to their responsibiltys.

Let me tell you a story about the first time I ever heard my grandma curse:

I grew up really poor. My first pair of brand new socks was in the ninth grade. We always wore hand-me-downs, or Goodwill. My shoes typically had holes in the soles.

My grandma was the most religious person I'd ever met. She went to church every time the doors were open. We didn't talk about school dances around the kitchen table because the way she read the Bible, it was a sin to dance. She didn't cut her hair her entire life, because it was a sin for a woman to cut her hair. It was worn in a bun, and when let out, it flowed down her back to the floor and kept going -- bright silver.

One day, my younger brother and two younger sisters were at grandma's house. One of my little sisters stormed through the front door crying "her eyes out." Some boy up the street had made fun of her about the clothes she wore.

Well, I knew my job. I was the big brother and I had to kick his a__. I slammed the screen door on the way out, and on the porch, holding onto the rail, was my grandma. She looked down at me and said, "Bobby, don't let the assholes get you down." It was the first time I'd ever heard her cuss and it stopped me in my tracks.

Grandma was right. The kid who'd made fun of my sister was a rich kid -- I would've been locked up (again) for sure. My sister (and mother) needed me to make some money. I wouldn't have done anybody any good from inside another juvenile facility.

Wendy and all, grandma's advice is applicable here. Using religion as a cover for sexism is another rich kid making fun of my little sister. Put them in their place, but don't let them get you down.

Robert Eggleton