Dear Sganot

Have you not yet seen Strewn's approach ? He is similar to a Jehovah's Witness. He waits for you to speak, ignores what you say and then uses that as a launching pad for his next outburst.

You are arguing comparisons. Israel 'Good'.. Palestinians 'Bad' or.. 'worse'.

But sound reasoning should tell you this will vary on a day to day basis, and is not a sound foundation for establishing high moral ground or making a claim to territory.

SOLUTION TO MIDDLE EAST....continued.

The Christian one.

Israelies realize that Jesus is 'The Christ', turn to Him as Messiah and Lord.

Muslims likewise, abandon the prophet of doom and gloom, of violence and Jihad, and embrace Christ as Redeemer and Lord. God the Son and Son of God.

Former Muslims and Former 'Judaizers' embrace one other in Christ and the conflict ends. "In Christ there is neither Greek nor Jew, Slave nor Free". Property is distributed on the basis of need.

AGAIN...PROBLEM SOLVED.

Until they are prepared to do this, then I stand by my 'Ethnic Cleansing' approach as the only workable one. I would allow Christian Arabs and non Muslims to remain.
Muslims who would be allowed to remain are:

Those who pledge loyalty to Israel, abandon "Islamic" claims to Jerusalem, and do so with the Quran over their heads with an oath unto death.

STEWN... lets just say Palestinians are allowed BACK to former homes and land. WHERE....will you send the Jews ? (maybe a dabble in the well of 'Ethnic Cleansing' ? :)

BOAZ_ David,

Goodness, you love putting human beings into catagories! I don't expect any insight from you on this subject...but I'll give it a go- WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. If you prick Palestinians/ Muslims/ Arabs do they not bleed? Do you understand what racism is?

Strewth brings up facts and your response- vilify millions of men, women and children that you do not, and never will, know becuse of their race and/or religion. Racism by any other name does not smell sweet.

There are hundreds of thousands of men, women and children brutally occupied by other men and women who want their land...and have already taken 78% of it. It is irrelevant what race or religion the occupied or occupier are....except to thise who are unable to see human beings as human beings.

ISRAELIS COULD BE HINDU, CATHOLIC, BLUE, FROM MARS; these are not the issue; the issue is the ACTIONS of Israelis toward the human beings they occupy, steal land and water from and killon a daily basis.

And give the bible a rest- it's a book written by non-scientific men wandering around in a desert. I do realise that logic and fact are not important to you...but they are to many others; humanity, compassion and care for our fellow human beings are also important to a great many of us...those of us who do not catagorize people on irrelevant things.

And, for the record, Palestinians belong to different religions- Muslim, Christian, agnostics, athiests and Jewish..have you read Dr. Uri Davies' work?

And BOaz_ David,

YOur question, "where will you send the Jews?" is absurd; people belonging to the Jewish religion live very nicely all around the world...many here is Sydney- as oppossed to the indigenous people of Palestine, who are languishing in camps around the world..and international law says they are entitled to go home, but when did international law mean anything to Israel?...not a rhetorical question by the way.

If Israel would begin to make reparation for the huge injustice and abuse of the indigenous people there, it would go somewhat to beging the healing process. Like the South African "Truth and Reconciliation" trials, oppressed people want recognition of their pain as a first step toward peace. It will take the men, women and children of Palestine decades to recover from what has, and still is, happened to them...Israel needs to start as soon as possible.

Sunrise

When will you stop trotting out the mantra about "indigenous people" in Palestine? The Palestinian Arabs are no more indigenous than the Jews. The rights of the Jews from Alexandria, Yemen and Iraq, now in Israel, to live in the Middle East are just as strong as the rights of the Palestinians. There is room for both as long as neither side has a policy to push the other into the sea. This goes for Jewish settlers as well as Hamas.

You argue that "people belonging to the Jewish religion live very nicely all around the world" (your words). Are you suggesting that the Palestinians are not capable of doing the same? Your confidence in a noble people with a great reigious faith seems to be lacking.

The state of Israel is an social, geo-political, economic & moral failure.
I agree with the President of Iran that it should be moved. The best place would be in America.. Arizona, New Mexico perhaps. This would remove a running sore from the Middle East & allow the people of Israel to settle in to the home of ratbag religions. I think the silence from Downer & the Australian press is a discrace.

Do you really think that the removal of Israel from the Middle East would leave the area in peace?

You have more faith in the middle eastern governments than I do. Would the Sunni and Shiíte groups stop fighting each other just because Israel is not there and would the oil rich billionaires and Sheiks there share their obscene wealth with the poor. They were not even ready to share with the Palestinian refugees unlike other displaced groups after theb war like the Sudaten Land Germans and the Jews who were helped by charitable others to renew their life.