Wendy, I would be happy to advise you, you can contact
me at bonobo@westnet.com.au

However I could not be part of your group, for I don't
share your philosophy :)

For a venture to take place, it does not need Govt
subsidies, just facilitation by State and Feds,
who sometimes tie everyone up in so much red tape,
that any progress becomes nearly impossible.

What you really want is Saudi money (they earn
900 million a day from oil, so 20m$ would be peanuts
for a Saudi prince.. Then you want value adders in
Malaysia, then farmer shareholders, through their
super funds. AMIEU could invest through their super
fund.

What is really required is a group like RSPCA to
twist Kim Chance's arm, that the Govt should
facilitate the project (get over all the red tape)
then it becomes easy, otherwise its a struggle all
the way...

Hugh Wirth would be doing more good using his influence
in that way, rather then waving his red flag about the
live trade, which at the moment, is a salvation for
many farmers and sheep without an alternate home.

Yabby

Thankyou. Awfully decent of you.

Right I need to just do it.

We would slaughter here, send carcus To Maylasia, JAKIM ,further distribute.

Sending carcus
pluss hides. Same cost as they buy live.

Fix their abattoir job loss.

They are keen on the Farms here.

See themselves as the future hub of Halal.

I did have some good direct contacts with Saudi through Amdjad at AFIC but however sadly hes ill .

Carry Mark Vailes bags and put this to them would help.

John Howards has said he will or his adviser along with Peter M and [maybe] Vaile meet re this if I do a proposal.

Also a couple of state advisers.

Its got to be done by a biz consultant because I would stuff it up.

Tried usual methods of insisting that part of the public funding go to such as this etc.

Its got to be a vote winner with the public feelings towards live exports.

The bigger problem is..

The damage done by these Animal libs , PETA.

The public are feeling they are bullying the farmers, while trying to tell them not to eat meat.

Makes it real hard to talk to Farmers.

If I say I am with pale they run. More than a couple of old timers have told me u know where I can stick my Muslims.] dags]

Dont even start me on Dr Wirthless.

Hes record of refusing to repy to my many invitations to meet with Government reps from Maylasia and other places to support this.

Even Peter McGaurans adviser said he should support this when she came up. Shes pretty much the same as you.

We do have the support of a CEO with RSPCA QLD

I shall run out of room so thank you again Yabby and I will email you.

Celiva Good idea and I am not ignoring you its just really hard to find people like Yabby on every street corner.

Look forward to talking with you both further.

Thanks Again Yabby

Celivia.

Love you onboard, a thinker.

Schools, great idea. Some worry about loosing subs.

One answer is creating work for Aboriginal people and reopening countrytowns.

City people are moving country, another chance.

Together with Maylasian and others interested in farms for meat and costmetics, vegetable herbs bushtucker.

Pamplets through Real Estate Agents and a healthy comm to the Agents.

Understandings with Country councils looking for work for their towns.

Script System like fly buys for purchasers of kinder meats.

Start in the Middle East with the Halal.

They could use the vouchers towards new shoes or car etc.

We really need is farmers onside not offside.

Australias loosing farmers, being replaced by new age corp lot[intensive farming]

We Require people prepared to start Free Range Farmers groups and eventually Teli advertising.

Creek fed, Free Range Farmers and build reopen abattoirs.

Your idea of reaching the members of the extream groups was best.!

People join these things thinking they are helping animals but dont get the bigger picture.

If any of the readers would like to help contact the Farmers that Free Range and support them thats the answer.

I think co joint vetures creating employment in the Bush is good for Australia.

I will still push to Government to adopt it as a policy while trying to make the oposition to see its a friendly policy they could win votes on.

Katrina is right and that is Animal Welfare is fast becoming main stream.

We need people to stand up for the farmers against PETA and this Animal Liberation lot telling everyone not to eat meat.

Remember all the members of groups care about animals.

There just mislead by the bullys and dictators.

Real farmers are hard to get to know.

They would rather be left alone by all the city mob they are convinced live in another world.

Best way to change that is to form Jobs For Australia and Support farmers Groups.

Next Post I will list ways to start your own groups.

Thanks Celivia

I promised to post on starting groups.

A small bbq and invite a few friends.
Even two people

Small are most effective. They work well together unlike some big groups.

Take some small boards along with a few Felt Pens and buy some thick grey tape.

If each person drives home with a sign on their back window its a good start.

Meet once a month and make the meetings as enjoyable. A few drinks does not go astray. At those BBQs work out who wants to do what.

You may like to contact us for some free footage, flyers and material.

Jobs for Australia is a very good group to start.

ban intensive feed lot Groups./

Others might like to form Free Range support for farmers groups.

We are happy to supply contacts of Free Range farmers.

There are the people who argue that these animals would only die in the paddock of thirst if not sent alive on ships.

Well let me tell you thats kinder!

We are over breeding in proven drought areas . There should be a law to stop that.

"Perhaps a Ban on Breeding in Drought Areas Group.

We supply free internet connections apart and material.

Once you get a few friends interested you will find your own ideas.

Its not a good idea to show footage tapes unless the people ask.

Most of the footage is SO bad it really upsets most people.

Try to stick to your own group and dont get bullied by anti meat eating groups like Animal Liberation or Animals Australia.

In the end its the everyday meat eaters that you need onside.

Most people are happy to hang a sign in their yard.

So try to get as many people as possibly to do that.

Print out our free stickers on this site and put them everywhere and anywhere.
stickers free>
www.livexports.com

We usually just leave them in our cars so when we go for milk , shopping and putting a couple up each time.

Good luck and contact us anytime for free materials and internet connection.

People Against live Exports and Intensive farming in conjunction wth RSPCA QLD

Would like to offer free Accomadation to anybody Interested to help on the Gold Coast.

It consists of a indoor pool area with a seperate outdoor pool areas as well.

Many computers two nice horses and a cheeky bird who wanders from office to office inspecting everybodies work.

We are close to the beaches yet close to the hinterland so you get the best of both worlds.

We have several lawyers as members who pop in on a daily, so there is always lots of support as well.

This wont suit everyone of course as many people having young children to raise.

However live on the Gold Coast or work from where you are we are happy to support you.

Remember do not feel guilty about eating meat you were meant to.

However we are all reposonsible for insisting they are free Range and Slaughtered Here In Australia keeping our jobs for Australians and improving Animal Welfare.

If you are a farmer sending animals Alive overseas because of the drought thats a lie.

You knew you were in drought country Before! you bred those animals.

Find another way to farm your land.

Get together and get a co op going with a few other farmers to slaughter in Australia and become a farmer exporter.

There is NO EXCUSE for such cruelty.

KooWeee, Yo Yabby,

Good to chat with you. I will wait until I hopefully hear from you and we will all come.

Thanks Mark Townend CEO RSPCA QLD.

We need more wonderful people who give their time Australia wide for no gain for animals.

The one hundred year old Animal Welfare act is Australias Greatest Shame.

John Howards most miserable peformance as a PM.

Howards is also capable of fixing things.

Its up to ALL of us to find alternatives AND John Howard to make the changes neccessary to stop intensive farming and live exports.


yo AQIS I saw some SHAMEFUL pictures of dogs in your care.

Before and after. The before was a picture in the holding yards in Africa but now look at them.! All your places will be under the spot light as of now. Shame on AQIS!

Simmon will soon be the labour leader again so i urge everybody to write to him and insist animals are Free Range, Slaughtered here and for an END to live exports.

As Yabby said we could slaughter here if we wanted just by opening up many new abattoirs.
Well isnt that good for jobs for Australia.

Its up to the people to make Government see there are votes in this.
DONATE YOUR TIME NOT! MONEY!

Speak to your local members regually and keep those letters pouring into LABOUR and JH.

Remember however Live exports are the reasonsibilty of Mark Vaile and Alexanda Downer so dont forget to tell them what you personally think of THEM. Just let your anger be shown! why shouldnt you.

Enough of the nice polite letters.!
Enough is enough and they are dodging putting it back onto Peter Mcgauaran.
THEY ARE THE MINISTERS OF TRADE AND AFFAIRS.

In my next post I will post a letter from the Queen offering Mark Vaile and Downer as the people reasonsibly the the cruel live export trade.
Remember Yabby Said the Government made a few changes years ago?

Well we need YOU to tell the Government to change it back.

CRUELTY TO ANIMALS. AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE ! SAY NO!